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Jan 24, 2021 - 9:20:24 AM
38 posts since 3/8/2013

looking to up grade the black rim to a sullivan wood rim ... will that help are would more have to be done

Jan 24, 2021 - 10:44:01 AM

Wayne C

USA

38 posts since 3/8/2013

ok maybe i should explain my question a little better ... 1977 gibson Mastertone was wondering if replacing the multi ply rim blk for a 3ply wood rim if that would make an approvment or must i replace the flange and tone ring also ..... any opoinions would be appreciated

Jan 24, 2021 - 10:51:58 AM
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Around '77-78 is when Gibson changed the rim from a many ply to a three ply, seams routed and filled making it look like a 5-ply rim. The many ply rim should be obvious as there are about 12 plies. The 3-ply rims are finished in a matte/flat black and the seams aren't as obvious.

If the latter, a rim change may be marginal and it's also likely to have to have the heavier, near 3-1/2lbs, GBB ring. The many ply rim 250's also have a light weight weight ring just over 2 pounds.

So, as usual.....it depends.

edit:  posted as previous post being made.

Edited by - 550Spyder on 01/24/2021 10:54:45

Jan 24, 2021 - 11:03:24 AM

Wayne C

USA

38 posts since 3/8/2013

Hmmmm thank you , i better look this thing over a little closer ....... it really dont sound all that bad ..... but nothing like my Deering golden era

Jan 24, 2021 - 11:33:19 AM
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13726 posts since 10/30/2008

LOTS of folks upgraded these 1970s Mastertones with decent 3 ply maple rims. I hear of Jimmy Cox rims used a lot for this very purpose. Of course, you want to be a rim properly cut for your vintage of Mastertone, meaning a 2 piece flange construction.

No need to change the flange.

Changing the tone ring puts you on the never-ending quest for the best sounding tone ring. I suggest you take time to tweak set up details once you have the new rim in, before you start going down the tone ring trail.

Jan 24, 2021 - 11:59:34 AM
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823 posts since 1/17/2011

I have a 1981 RB250 with a brown 3 ply rim and a GBB ring. Weighs a ton but sounds great.

Jan 24, 2021 - 12:28:42 PM
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3932 posts since 9/21/2009

The Factory Floor rims Sullivan that are in the V-35 banjos are awesome rims. Can't beat them IMO. I would send the ring to Eric and have him fit the rim properly to it. You'll be glad you did IMO.

Jan 24, 2021 - 12:44:42 PM
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Wayne C

USA

38 posts since 3/8/2013

thank you all for the advise in my head thats what i have been thinking start with the rim i will send it off to Eric for proper fit

Jan 24, 2021 - 2:33:46 PM
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3612 posts since 5/29/2011

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Originally posted by Wayne C

thank you all for the advise in my head thats what i have been thinking start with the rim i will send it off to Eric for proper fit


Make sure to send the flange, too.

Jan 24, 2021 - 2:41:41 PM
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3938 posts since 5/1/2003

Send the whole banjo and get a free setup. Have him put one of those $10 bridges on too. Best bargain in banjoland

Jan 24, 2021 - 3:22:22 PM

Wayne C

USA

38 posts since 3/8/2013

gotta becarfull ill have the money cop on my back .... im gonna save $50 if i stain it myself ..... ahhhh the retired life of penny pinching

Jan 27, 2021 - 11:03:10 AM
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3932 posts since 9/21/2009

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Originally posted by Ks_5-picker

Send the whole banjo and get a free setup. Have him put one of those $10 bridges on too. Best bargain in banjoland


I'll agree on the 10 roasted maple bridge. They are the real thing!

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