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Jan 17, 2021 - 4:10:03 PM
4 posts since 11/11/2019

I am trying bring some old banjos back to life and am looking for banjo tuners that will fit the very small peg heads so prevalent in older banjo. Any ideas.

Jan 17, 2021 - 4:24:14 PM
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841 posts since 5/31/2004

Just an idea:
https://fiddlershop.com/products/perfection-planetary-geared-violin-peg-set

Maybe the the hole that accepts the string can be drilled closer to the end, to be suitable for banjos.

This is just one of this type.  There are a few.  Pegheads is another one.

Jan 17, 2021 - 4:26:35 PM

banjonz

New Zealand

11094 posts since 6/29/2003

The only micro clip on tuners I know of are the D'Addario/Planet waves NS Micro Clip-On Tuner

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DAddario-NS-Micro-Clip-On-Tuner-2-pack/133523253145?epid=14034592219&hash=item1f169b2799:g:nOoAAOSwBnpc5wJv

Jan 17, 2021 - 4:37:30 PM
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beegee

USA

22179 posts since 7/6/2005

contact Bob Smakula here on the hangout

Jan 17, 2021 - 8:43:13 PM
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5942 posts since 9/21/2007

What is wrong with the original tuners?

Jan 18, 2021 - 6:47:56 AM

2494 posts since 4/7/2010

quote:
Originally posted by vintagetenor

Just an idea:
https://fiddlershop.com/products/perfection-planetary-geared-violin-peg-set

Maybe the the hole that accepts the string can be drilled closer to the end, to be suitable for banjos.

This is just one of this type.  There are a few.  Pegheads is another one.


For clarity, I'll bring up that the Perfection brand of tuners are the same as the Pegheds brand. The music distributor Saint Louis Music  licensed the pegeheds design and are the exclusive distributor for the violin family geared tuners. 

Pegheds makes this tuner available for 5-string banjos and I do sell them. I do not like them for steel strings, but they work OK for Nylon. 

I also sell ABM tuners that have a .290" diameter shaft. Those are my favorite for vintage instruments where you want to do the least amount of modification. There are no geared tuners that can be installed in 100 year old banjos that are a drop in fit. 

And Joel's point of "what are wrong with the old tuners?" is a good one. If you are using nylon strings,  original friction screw tension  tuners will likely work fine. If you have tuners that are like violin tuners with a tapered shaft in a tapered hole, they will likely have to be refit. I find most of those old tuners, especially the ones made of celluloid, are out of round and need to be trued before they will work well.

 

Bob Smakula

smakula.com

Jan 18, 2021 - 8:00:48 AM

841 posts since 5/31/2004

Thanks, Bob. Are Pegheads not designed for the tension of steel strings? And, do they function better that mechanical friction pegs for steel?

Jan 20, 2021 - 11:15:59 AM

4 posts since 11/11/2019

quote:
Originally posted by Joel Hooks

What is wrong with the original tuners?


Some are missing, some are rusted out, some are pegs (I hate pegs), some just don't hold no matter how hard you tighten the set screws.  I am not so interested in preserving history, just reestablish functionality.

Jan 20, 2021 - 11:20:52 AM

4 posts since 11/11/2019

quote:
Originally posted by Bob Smakula
quote:
Originally posted by vintagetenor

Just an idea:
https://fiddlershop.com/products/perfection-planetary-geared-violin-peg-set

Maybe the the hole that accepts the string can be drilled closer to the end, to be suitable for banjos.

This is just one of this type.  There are a few.  Pegheads is another one.


For clarity, I'll bring up that the Perfection brand of tuners are the same as the Pegheds brand. The music distributor Saint Louis Music  licensed the pegeheds design and are the exclusive distributor for the violin family geared tuners. 

Pegheds makes this tuner available for 5-string banjos and I do sell them. I do not like them for steel strings, but they work OK for Nylon. 

I also sell ABM tuners that have a .290" diameter shaft. Those are my favorite for vintage instruments where you want to do the least amount of modification. There are no geared tuners that can be installed in 100 year old banjos that are a drop in fit. 

And Joel's point of "what are wrong with the old tuners?" is a good one. If you are using nylon strings,  original friction screw tension  tuners will likely work fine. If you have tuners that are like violin tuners with a tapered shaft in a tapered hole, they will likely have to be refit. I find most of those old tuners, especially the ones made of celluloid, are out of round and need to be trued before they will work well.

 

Bob Smakula

smakula.com


 

Bob,

Thanks so much for taking time to respond.  I do have to decide what kind of strings to use,  most have the remnants of steel strings on them except for one that has nylon.  I will check out the tuners you suggested.  As I responded above, I am mostly about functionality and am spoiled by nice geared tuners although this will not likely be an option for these old banjos.

Thanks again,

 

Jacques

Jan 20, 2021 - 11:29:21 AM

2494 posts since 4/7/2010

quote:
Originally posted by vintagetenor

Thanks, Bob. Are Pegheads not designed for the tension of steel strings? And, do they function better that mechanical friction pegs for steel?


No, Pegheds tuners are not designed with steel strings in mind. The inventor is a classical cellist. His original tuners were for cello and are a great addition to any cello. Though Pegheds don't work well with steel banjo strings, they do work, and are, in my opinion, marginally better than mechanical friction tuners when used with steel strings.

Bob Smakula

Jan 20, 2021 - 11:58:55 AM

841 posts since 5/31/2004

Thanks, Bob.

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