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Dec 2, 2020 - 2:55:14 PM
11180 posts since 1/15/2005

I live in a South Carolina town with about 80,000 citizens (almost 500,000 in the county) and I literally can't leave the house without seeing at least one New York tag. This is every day, as my daughter has been visiting for a month and points them out every time we go somewhere. Are they all migrating south? Curious!

Dec 2, 2020 - 3:29:46 PM

mander

USA

4486 posts since 10/7/2007

I thought New Yorkers preferred Florida.

Dec 2, 2020 - 5:29:20 PM
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Owen

Canada

7424 posts since 6/5/2011

I suppose if one has to be "from" somewhere New York is a good a place as any.  cheeky

Several years ago, while meandering about, my wife and I were at a truck rental business in High Level, AB.   https://www.google.com/maps/place/High+Level,+AB+T0H+1Z0/@58.5038154,-117.0616637,8.54z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x53c083529d4e16b3:0xda351255d5628e09!8m2!3d58.5070664!4d-117.1403406 

The agent asked where we were headed. My wife said "Garden River." https://www.google.com/maps/place/Garden+Creek,+AB/@57.4481567,-113.1766816,3.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x53b83e0eba54cd1b:0x77483a8b6ff42f03!8m2!3d58.713716!4d-113.892873   He gave us a bit of an "odd" eyeball and said:  "People don't go there; they come from there."

Edited by - Owen on 12/02/2020 17:41:37

Dec 2, 2020 - 5:56:16 PM

RonR

USA

1738 posts since 11/29/2012

Last time I was in Florida the place was filled up. Hilton Head looked like it was getting close to capacity too. New York state is nice in the warmer months, but I guess its pretty bitter in the winter.

Dec 2, 2020 - 5:57:15 PM
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2397 posts since 2/10/2013

I live on the gulf coast, and this is about the time the "snowbirds" go south or to the southwest. If you see a guy in Bermuda shorts, wearing wingtips, and has knee length socks on, you have spotted a New York City resident for sure. Watch out though, people from some areas in New Jersey can be mistaken for New York City residents. Heck, the New York Giant football team plays in New Jersey.

A waitress in Ocala Florida told me that in the winter that area is full of "snowbirds". In the summer, it is almost empty. They help the local economy in the winter when all the beachgoers aren't around. We get a lot of "snowbirds" on the Florida panhandle and on the Alabama gulf coast. You reminded that I better check the campgrounds out for pickers.

Dec 2, 2020 - 9:05:22 PM
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Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

24240 posts since 6/25/2005

Maybe they’re from upstate NY and just naturally gravitated to upstate SC

Dec 3, 2020 - 4:30:38 AM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

25339 posts since 8/3/2003

I've hidden some political posts. Let's keep politics out of this thread, please.

Dec 3, 2020 - 4:41:24 AM

6147 posts since 9/5/2006

have the gibson brothers ever played spartanburg ?

Dec 3, 2020 - 4:54:15 AM

15039 posts since 12/2/2005

There are at least two possible explanations.

It's well established that people with the means to do so are leaving major cities and moving to less-densely populated areas. The pandemic has either convinced their employers that expensive office spaces in the skyscraper canyons are no longer necessary, or these folks are at the stages of their careers in which they can simply say "you know where to reach me."

I can't speak for other parts of the country, but I can tell you that in New England, the real estate market in places like Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine and, here in Massachusetts, the Berkshires and Cape Cod is going nuts. A whole lot of urban expats are movin' to the country.

Another possibility may be no more dramatic than rental car fleets, and how the rental car companies move them around. I've rented cars in Utah that had Georgia plates. Figure that one out...

Dec 3, 2020 - 5:43:27 AM

382 posts since 9/6/2019

Skip, we have the same thing here where I live. I live in a mostly rural area and a lot of people from New York are coming down and buying many of the farms. Wineries are also becoming a booming business here and I suspect that many of these out-of-state folks are ones who are tired of the big city rat race and just want to ferment grapes for the rest of their days.

And you are correct about the rental car fleets. There are New York plates all over the lots of, at least the ones I see, rental car companies here so unless someone rents a car for a road trip and drops it off at the other end, those cars tend to stay local.

Dec 3, 2020 - 5:52:40 AM

73767 posts since 5/9/2007

A friend of mine in Maine just sold her house in a few days.
Hoping for 190k she got 270k when 2 buyers started a bidding fight.

I'm holding out for 500k or maybe sell a 1 acre building lot 50.It's definitely a seller's market up here in the "Country of the Pointed Firs".

Sara Orne Jewett's little schoolhouse home is about 1/8 of a mile from my driveway.When Malcolm Morley bought Dad's house he made a sign for the workshop that says "Dunnet's Landing".

Edited by - steve davis on 12/03/2020 05:59:17

Dec 3, 2020 - 9:46:07 AM

896 posts since 3/7/2006

quote:
Originally posted by mander

I thought New Yorkers preferred Florida.


Living in Tennessee, I can attest that unfortunately, many of these stragglers don't make it exactly that far.

There are only two kinds of Yankees in Tennessee. Yankees and Damm Yankees. The latter for some reason decide to stay and earn the label.

Dec 3, 2020 - 11:05:29 AM

4868 posts since 10/6/2009

We're seeing many city people flocking to NH, VT, ME due to the virus and to get as "isolated" as they can. Property values here are through the roof. I'm sure that is the case in other areas. Unfortunately the virus doesn't care as many of the places across the country (not northern New England thankfully) with the worst virus numbers are now rural and with poor leadership. Tragic

Dec 3, 2020 - 11:26:56 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

25339 posts since 8/3/2003

quote:
Originally posted by Bolie Jackson

We're seeing many city people flocking to NH, VT, ME due to the virus and to get as "isolated" as they can. Property values here are through the roof. I'm sure that is the case in other areas. Unfortunately the virus doesn't care as many of the places across the country (not northern New England thankfully) with the worst virus numbers are now rural and with poor leadership. Tragic


I'll try to stay out of politics because it's against the rules, but I don't think it's necessarily poor leadership that's causing the problem but independent (maybe sometimes selfish) people who don't want to be told what to do, when to do it and how.   Most people like that will not willingly give up their freedoms unless convinced there is a reason.

I still hear people who think masks are not necessary and if they get the virus, it won't be any worse than the flu.  Most of those type of people don't really seem to care about those who have compromised immune systems but just about themselves.

Dec 3, 2020 - 12:19:04 PM
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heavy5

USA

1442 posts since 11/3/2016

quote:
Originally posted by RonR

Last time I was in Florida the place was filled up. Hilton Head looked like it was getting close to capacity too. New York state is nice in the warmer months, but I guess its pretty bitter in the winter.


Actually so far it's been pretty mild here in Upstate NY . Seems the nasty weather has been south & east of us & during last summer also but maybe it's bad luck to tout it !  I'm leaving the plow off the tractor to keep the snow away --- so far so good ! (ha)

Have a full stash of wood but have been burning oil instead of wood as it's cheaper & a heck of a lot more convienient & it should take the crunch off getting wood for next season .    

OK, totally out of subject but here's an early gift I received ---  Wife says I'm outstanding in my field , glad I married a BG lover ! 


 

Edited by - heavy5 on 12/03/2020 12:36:08

Dec 3, 2020 - 2:21:10 PM

11180 posts since 1/15/2005

quote:
Originally posted by eagleisland

There are at least two possible explanations.

It's well established that people with the means to do so are leaving major cities and moving to less-densely populated areas. The pandemic has either convinced their employers that expensive office spaces in the skyscraper canyons are no longer necessary, or these folks are at the stages of their careers in which they can simply say "you know where to reach me."

I can't speak for other parts of the country, but I can tell you that in New England, the real estate market in places like Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine and, here in Massachusetts, the Berkshires and Cape Cod is going nuts. A whole lot of urban expats are movin' to the country.

Another possibility may be no more dramatic than rental car fleets, and how the rental car companies move them around. I've rented cars in Utah that had Georgia plates. Figure that one out...


I think that is part of it for sure Skip, and maybe some rental cars fleet vehicles could contribute.  Land and housing values have continued to rise and it is incredible at the number of apartment complexes that are under construction.  I just sold a two acre lot that is on a major road in a nice residential area that I have owned for thirty years,  I lsted it with a realtor seven years ago and they got exactly one call in a year.  Three months ago I out up a "Sale By Owner" sign and my first call came in within two hours.  We agreed on a price (a 10% drop in my asking price) and after giving his a week to do some preliminary investigation he backed out.  I am so grateful that he did because over the next week and a half I had gotten over 20 calls.  I settled on one that I thought was serious and although he had offered my $5,000 more than what I was originally asking, I told him I would stick to the original price if he paid all the closing costs, which he agreed to.  In the meantime I had offers of $25,000 more than what I was asking, but had to turn them down!  Someone said the real estate market is "nutty" amd I would have to agree.

Dec 3, 2020 - 2:22:43 PM

Owen

Canada

7424 posts since 6/5/2011

 
Originally posted by heavy5.
  I'm leaving the plow off the tractor.... "
What the?? ?? No plow on the tractor??  What good would that do??   cheeky
I've posted this before...[you get it all in the first minute]:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDx8fM5rDNw
Edit: re. offers more than asking price.  IF it's thru an agent and the agent "knows the market" shouldn't he/she have a pretty good idea of what the selling price would ultimately be?    If it's going to essentially be an auction, what's does the agent contribute re. price?

Edited by - Owen on 12/03/2020 14:35:38

Dec 3, 2020 - 2:23:52 PM

11180 posts since 1/15/2005

quote:
Originally posted by 1935tb-11

have the gibson brothers ever played spartanburg ?


Not sure Terry.  I live about 25 miles away but usually hear when different bands appear.  We used to play at The Handlebar in Greenville (now closed) and they regularly had groups like Scaggs & Kentucky Thunder, Del McCourey, Junior Brown, etc.

Dec 3, 2020 - 6:55:39 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

14613 posts since 9/27/2007
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On my daily drive home from work today I saw a Washington State plate a Saskatchewan & an Alberta plate!

Non essential traffic ONLY!   

Dec 4, 2020 - 7:02:51 AM

6147 posts since 9/5/2006

quote:
Originally posted by BanjoLink
quote:
Originally posted by 1935tb-11

have the gibson brothers ever played spartanburg ?


Not sure Terry.  I live about 25 miles away but usually hear when different bands appear.  We used to play at The Handlebar in Greenville (now closed) and they regularly had groups like Scaggs & Kentucky Thunder, Del McCourey, Junior Brown, etc.


ok i have a protege or a former student i guess you say,, i was #3 for him ,,al olsteen and kirsten scott benson ,, then me LOL ,, lives in pacolet ,,, and he said he don't remember them being there either... but he was on the road for a few years till last year.

Dec 4, 2020 - 7:11:48 AM

73767 posts since 5/9/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Texasbanjo
quote:
Originally posted by Bolie Jackson

We're seeing many city people flocking to NH, VT, ME due to the virus and to get as "isolated" as they can. Property values here are through the roof. I'm sure that is the case in other areas. Unfortunately the virus doesn't care as many of the places across the country (not northern New England thankfully) with the worst virus numbers are now rural and with poor leadership. Tragic


I'll try to stay out of politics because it's against the rules, but I don't think it's necessarily poor leadership that's causing the problem but independent (maybe sometimes selfish) people who don't want to be told what to do, when to do it and how.   Most people like that will not willingly give up their freedoms unless convinced there is a reason.

I still hear people who think masks are not necessary and if they get the virus, it won't be any worse than the flu.  Most of those type of people don't really seem to care about those who have compromised immune systems but just about themselves.


That's why we need a national mandate.The only thing worse than a national mandate is dying.Looks like we're going to get a 100 day mask mandate in January.By that time we'll be dying at a rate of around 3,000 souls every day!

Dec 4, 2020 - 7:51:16 AM
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382 posts since 9/6/2019

You MIGHT get a mandate. The federal government can't impose one so it will be, as it always has been, up to the individual states to impose a mandate. All the federal government can do is request that states follow suit.

And I agree with Sherry. If some people would look beyond their own little bubble, we wouldn't have people screaming to have mandates and more imposition into our everyday lives than there already is. I'm all for freedom, but with freedom comes responsibility, and too many people have dropped the responsibility part out of that statement.

Edited by - Banjonewguy on 12/04/2020 07:51:43

Dec 4, 2020 - 8:09:15 AM

chuckv97

Canada

54709 posts since 10/5/2013

“Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose”

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