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Oct 29, 2020 - 6:26:42 AM
8 posts since 10/29/2020

Hi all,

I have been learning 3 finger Scruggs style for 6 months on a Deering Goodtime II and can loving it. However, I recently heard several tracks played in the 2 finger, thumb lead style and love the soft, delicate tone of the music played like this. So, now I am interested in learning this style in alongside my Scruggs stuff.

I particularly love the soft, eerie tone in the video which I will link below. I wondered if anyone could recommend a good open back banjo that would give me this kind of sound when played with fingers?

I am in the UK and my budget is around £500 - £1000 which is around $650 - $1300

Thanks,
WPFM

Oct 29, 2020 - 6:27:03 AM

8 posts since 10/29/2020

Here is the sound I would like to achieve: youtube.com/watch?v=GcUhcRroqjU

Oct 29, 2020 - 7:17:25 AM
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2375 posts since 12/31/2005

That is a Cedar Mtn Banjo.  Honestly, best thing to do is to contact Tim Gardner.  Show him the link and tell him what you are looking for.  His Jubilo line might be around that range, but he might be able to whip you up something that works.  They are fantastic banjos.  They are rarely put up for sale because they are keepers.  I have a 22-year old one that Tim's dad made.   I go through banjos like everyone else, but something special about that one.  If I could only keep one open back, that would be it.  It does have a similar voice, although I cannot pretend to be able to produce the quality of picking you are seeing in that video.

Oct 29, 2020 - 7:38:36 AM
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8 posts since 10/29/2020

Thanks so much - that's really helpful.

I would imagine that this is what I need, since the video series and tutorials are called Brainjo:

cedarmtnbanjos.com/product/the-brainjo/

Oct 29, 2020 - 7:47:18 AM
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Eric A

USA

872 posts since 10/15/2019

I think a big part of the charm of that performance is the sawmill tuning. Maybe not so much the banjo itself.

Edited by - Eric A on 10/29/2020 07:50:36

Oct 29, 2020 - 7:52:50 AM

8 posts since 10/29/2020

Oh yeah? - I will try learning some basics on my Goodtime II anyway with that tuning before investing in an open back anyway.

Thank you Sir,
WPFM

Oct 29, 2020 - 7:54:26 AM
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2219 posts since 9/25/2006

Your good time is a fine banjo for that. As is the RK Dirty Thirties models. I'm also a big Gibson Kalamazoo fan for two finger style. Or, an old Silvertone or Kay. I have an old Silvertone that will rock your socks for this style...

Oct 29, 2020 - 7:57:33 AM
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Eric A

USA

872 posts since 10/15/2019

quote:
Originally posted by woodpekkerfrommars

Oh yeah? - I will try learning some basics on my Goodtime II anyway with that tuning before investing in an open back anyway.

Thank you Sir,
WPFM


You can also take the resonator off.  You'll still have the flange digging into your leg (maybe a towel on your lap?), but that will also give you an idea of tone for open back vs reso.

Oct 29, 2020 - 7:58:30 AM

31 posts since 6/5/2013

Gold Tone has a luthier who puts together some amazing OT banjos under the label High Moon. He can make you a beautiful banjo both visually and audibly.

PM me and I can get you details.

Oct 29, 2020 - 8:01:20 AM

665 posts since 6/9/2009

You can take the resonator and flange off of a Goodtime, and then you'll have an open back. Personally, I'd much rather play two-finger OT stuff on a resonator.

Oct 29, 2020 - 8:51:41 AM

2375 posts since 12/31/2005

Pete is correct. Flange comes off as well and you have a good open back. But no need to do that to learn the tunes.

Oct 29, 2020 - 3:51:06 PM

142 posts since 12/21/2012

A thought: Doc Boggs is really an icon for that style. In his early pictures and recordings he used an openback, but 1966's videos he has what appears to be a Gibson resonator. (Here's a link to country blues)

So, though an open back player myself, I personally think resonators can sound great in old time music. Style and tuning mean a lot.

Good luck :)

Oct 29, 2020 - 8:18:04 PM
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2285 posts since 5/2/2012

Noticed that the "brainjo" banjo (if it was available) could be set up 3 different ways, to get 3 different "sounds" (or is it "voices"?). The OP might want to consider experimenting with string gauges (heavier), head tension (lower?) different head (from frosted to something a bit more mellow, like a Ren or Fiberskyn), bridge (weight, material). etc. with the Goodtime.

Edited by - thisoldman on 10/29/2020 20:18:53

Oct 30, 2020 - 12:07:33 AM

837 posts since 6/25/2006

I agree with Frankie - your Goodtime will be fine for 2finger. If you take the fingerpicks off, you automatically get that hollow, eerie sound on steel strings.

Oct 30, 2020 - 6:38:45 AM

8 posts since 10/29/2020

Thanks all!

Oct 30, 2020 - 6:56:48 AM

Helix

USA

13095 posts since 8/30/2006

GoldToneMusicGroup, Is that you Wayne? Who was that masked man? I wanted to thank him. Heigh Ho silver-plated and away.

Oct 30, 2020 - 11:37:23 AM

1000 posts since 12/8/2006

Get in touch with Clif Hicks, both for YouTube 2-finger lessons and instrument suggestions.

Oct 30, 2020 - 4:53:30 PM

39 posts since 10/18/2020

quote:
Originally posted by woodpekkerfrommars

Here is the sound I would like to achieve: youtube.com/watch?v=GcUhcRroqjU


@woodpekkerfrommars I believe that is one of those Brainjo Banjo's the Hobart model the person playing it is Josh Turknet he Coloberated with cedar mountain banjo's in the making of three different models 

go to clawhammerbanjo.net

Edited by - Don Smith1959 on 10/30/2020 16:54:58

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