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Oct 26, 2020 - 3:49:44 PM
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31970 posts since 3/5/2008

Turns out...
One of the most search thing in search engines..as of late..is..

Can I change my Vote..!

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Oct 26, 2020 - 4:29:44 PM
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Owen

Canada

6932 posts since 6/5/2011

.....you had me worried there for a minute, Fig.... I thought you were gonna be remorseful about buyin' those llama turds.    cheeky

Edit: As for changing those things we shan't talk about, I expect the remorseful would probably be equal in both/all directions, so .........

Edited by - Owen on 10/26/2020 16:42:17

Oct 26, 2020 - 5:13:52 PM
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bubbalouie

Canada

14394 posts since 9/27/2007

We voted in our local election on Saturday. There was no doubt who we were supporting & it worked out in our favour.

Oct 26, 2020 - 5:52:58 PM

9730 posts since 8/22/2006

Rush to judgment sometimes can bite one in the posterior.

Oct 26, 2020 - 6:47:12 PM
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donc

Canada

6471 posts since 2/9/2010

quote:
Originally posted by bubbalouie

We voted in our local election on Saturday. There was no doubt who we were supporting & it worked out in our favour.


Its much easier with provincial  population of 5.5 million. When the polls closed at 8:00 the CBC moderators were sitting there with no numbers to report and nothing to say or do. One journalist then gave along dissertation on how all the mail in votes with the early polls would likely mean we wouldn't get an answer for a few days. One hour and thirty minutes later a clear winner was declared. 

Oct 26, 2020 - 6:58:58 PM
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bubbalouie

Canada

14394 posts since 9/27/2007

We voted in person in the empty gymnasium of our local high school. There was one lady ahead of us. 

I knew most everyone would mail in their votes. We wore masks & the only thing we had to touch was the sanitized pencil. "They" said it might take up to 2 weeks to tally the votes! Nope!

I vote for my riding, province & country & they're not all from the same parties. It's working for us!

Edited by - bubbalouie on 10/26/2020 19:12:46

Oct 26, 2020 - 8:02:21 PM

Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

24101 posts since 6/25/2005

All I have to is drop my ballot in a collection box. We have several in our town of about 75K—more than Harris County, TX (Houston)—which has a population of more than 4.5 million and one ballot drop box.

Oct 27, 2020 - 4:47:28 AM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

25127 posts since 8/3/2003

I voted early, 2nd day the polls were open. No lines, no waiting, walk in, sign up, vote, walk out.

And let's please keep political statements out of this thread. We can talk about voting, but not candidates.

Oct 27, 2020 - 5:52:42 AM
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wizofos

USA

5700 posts since 8/19/2012

We have an appointment to vote tonight at 6 pm the town hall. Our town clerk makes appointments so that there is only one person or family in the town hall at a time and she sanitizes after each appointment. This is for early voting, normal voting polls will be open on election day. This works pretty good for a population of about 2773 (2000 census) scattered over 36 square miles.
I don't care who you vote for, just hope that you exercise your right to vote if you have that right.

Oct 27, 2020 - 6:25:20 AM

14942 posts since 12/2/2005

quote:
Originally posted by Owen

.....you had me worried there for a minute, Fig.... I thought you were gonna be remorseful about buyin' those llama turds.    cheeky


As did I.

Oct 27, 2020 - 6:38:05 AM

5911 posts since 9/5/2006

we rode around friday while out doing our running,, i went by 4 different sites in the hours from 10am to 2:30 pm ,, lines of 75 or more out the door at each one.

Oct 27, 2020 - 12:20:56 PM

figmo59

USA

31970 posts since 3/5/2008

No...no...fellers...

I'm as happy as ah Fig in...schit...!

Oct 27, 2020 - 12:35:04 PM

38 posts since 1/27/2015

Hope they all get counted correctly. Hope they all get counted on election day not like with Al Franken they kept counting them until they got the result they wanted.

Oct 27, 2020 - 1:00:35 PM
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10379 posts since 2/22/2007

I am afraid that come election night we are not going to know any more than we do right now. Results will come trickling in, new count totals day after day, then the results will be contested, both sides will claim cheating and outrage, the streets will become violent, and----
OK, enough, I'm depressed about it all. We have broken humpty dumpty and I have serious doubts about all the king's horses and all the king's men. Both sides have demonstrated clearly that the results of this ONE election are so damn important that is is worth trashing--forever-- the norms and forms that allow us to function as a representative democracy. And does anyone think that the mainstream media, which has collectively decided that this ONE election is so damn important that they can toss all standards of objectivity and even decency in the trash can, all for this most noble cause of course---does anyone think that they will somehow return to former standards and practices after this is over? No, they have destroyed the role of the press in a free society, and it's humpty dumpty all over again.

Oct 27, 2020 - 1:48:28 PM
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DC5

USA

14624 posts since 6/30/2015

I'll be voting in person on election day.

Instead of early voting, I propose late voting, where you wake up the day after the election, find out who won and say "Hell no!" and go cast your vote.

You don't need to see all the ballots to identify the winner except in very close, elections where a recount would kick in. Like any other statistical model, you only need the correct sampling. I don't know what will happen this year with mail in and drop off ballots, but in the past absentee ballots were not counted unless it was a close race and it was mathematically possible for the absentee ballots to alter the results. If the winner wins by 1,000 votes, and there are only 500 absentee ballots, there is no point in counting them. This is why winners are often declared after only a tiny percent of the precincts have tallied their votes. Here in the U.S. they used to be able to declare winners even before the poles closed, based on exit interviews. Often we knew who won before California even got the chance to vote. Fortunately they changed that.

Oct 27, 2020 - 2:08:56 PM

3706 posts since 12/6/2009

quote:
Originally posted by wizofos

We have an appointment to vote tonight at 6 pm the town hall. Our town clerk makes appointments so that there is only one person or family in the town hall at a time and she sanitizes after each appointment. This is for early voting, normal voting polls will be open on election day. This works pretty good for a population of about 2773 (2000 census) scattered over 36 square miles.
I don't care who you vote for, just hope that you exercise your right to vote if you have that right.


where ya live? Dog Patch wher the population is only 15?

Oct 27, 2020 - 2:45:16 PM

10379 posts since 2/22/2007

^^ I"m jealous. Dogpatch is sounding pretty good right now.

Oct 27, 2020 - 2:54:47 PM

birdman

USA

475 posts since 8/24/2004

Come on, man.... Thats malarkey

Oct 27, 2020 - 3:02:24 PM

Owen

Canada

6932 posts since 6/5/2011

Oct 27, 2020 - 3:55:59 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Owen

Drowning Man Cartoons and Comics - funny pictures from CartoonStock

Edit: overhere, yer out by 6,438...  https://www.point2homes.com/US/Neighborhood/CA/San-Francisco-County/San-Francisco/Central-Waterfront-Dogpatch-Demographics.html#:~:text=Recently%20added%20listings%20in%20Central%20Waterfront%20%2D%20Dogpatch%20top&text=Central%20Waterfront%20%2D%20Dogpatch%20is%20an,with%20a%20population%20of%206%2C453.     cheeky


that dog patch is just a nick name they gave a part of San Fransisco that dont matter no how.. The real dog patch is a place where LiL Abner lives in  hills between two mountain ridges somewhere where Al Capp says it is.....Al Capp knew his stuffing and we take him for his word..... elst Mammy Yokum would whope ya all silly

Oct 27, 2020 - 6:37:57 PM
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wizofos

USA

5700 posts since 8/19/2012

quote:
Originally posted by overhere
quote:
Originally posted by wizofos

We have an appointment to vote tonight at 6 pm the town hall. Our town clerk makes appointments so that there is only one person or family in the town hall at a time and she sanitizes after each appointment. This is for early voting, normal voting polls will be open on election day. This works pretty good for a population of about 2773 (2000 census) scattered over 36 square miles.
I don't care who you vote for, just hope that you exercise your right to vote if you have that right.


where ya live? Dog Patch wher the population is only 15?


No, live in Mukwa township.   That is about 5 miles across the swamp from Dog Patch.  Nearest town is Northport (unincorporated) which has 3 bars, 1 used car dealer, 1 gas station and the town hall.

Oct 28, 2020 - 8:35:54 AM

Owen

Canada

6932 posts since 6/5/2011

quote:
Originally posted by overhere.

<snip> The real dog patch is a place where LiL Abner lives in  hills between two mountain ridges somewhere where Al Capp says it is.....Al Capp knew his stuffing and we take him for his word..... elst Mammy Yokum would whope ya all silly


I read Li'l Abner 'way back... as apparently 59,999,999 others also did ...  but I never bothered to look up much/any background info. Some interesting stuff here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li%27l_Abner  including "Capp had a profound influence on the way the world viewed the American south."

Oct 28, 2020 - 9:06:37 AM

KCJones

USA

966 posts since 8/30/2012

quote:
Originally posted by DC5


....You don't need to see all the ballots to identify the winner except in very close, elections where a recount would kick in. Like any other statistical model, you only need the correct sampling. I don't know what will happen this year with mail in and drop off ballots, but in the past absentee ballots were not counted unless it was a close race and it was mathematically possible for the absentee ballots to alter the results. If the winner wins by 1,000 votes, and there are only 500 absentee ballots, there is no point in counting them. This is why winners are often declared after only a tiny percent of the precincts have tallied their votes. Here in the U.S. they used to be able to declare winners even before the poles closed, based on exit interviews. Often we knew who won before California even got the chance to vote. Fortunately they changed that.


The *news media* declares winners with a tiny percentage of precincts reporting, and sometimes political campaigns would concede before all votes were counted. But official counts have always included absentee ballots. I asked this specific question the last election, and my local clerk seemed downright offended at the suggestion that absentee ballots are only counted in 'close' races. Your claim that exit polling has historically been used to declare official results is not supported by any literature I have ever read, and I'd ask that you provide a source to this claim if it's to be taken seriously.

As far as statistical modeling goes... as someone well-versed in mathematics I can tell you that the primary purpose of statistics and polling is to skew reality to support the opinion of whomever controls the model. "Lies, damn lies, and statistics", as the saying goes. Not in a million years should anyone trust anything a pollster or statistician says.

Oct 28, 2020 - 9:23:33 AM

Owen

Canada

6932 posts since 6/5/2011

 
Originally posted by KCJones.
  <snip> Not in a million years should anyone trust anything a pollster or statistician says.

Here's Dief's take on the matter: https://www.quotes.net/quote/63936

Edited by - Owen on 10/28/2020 09:24:10

Oct 28, 2020 - 10:58:48 AM

1361 posts since 2/4/2013

quote:
Originally posted by figmo59

Turns out...
One of the most search thing in search engines..as of late..is..

Can I change my Vote..!

:0/


No not of late. 1 day and boosted by news and Presidents mentioning it. Strangely of late "Can I change my vote trending" is trending. And spikes on change my vote seem to happen quite often though without the twitter boost.

Oct 28, 2020 - 11:30:22 AM
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DC5

USA

14624 posts since 6/30/2015

quote:
Originally posted by KCJones
quote:
Originally posted by DC5


....You don't need to see all the ballots to identify the winner except in very close, elections where a recount would kick in. Like any other statistical model, you only need the correct sampling. I don't know what will happen this year with mail in and drop off ballots, but in the past absentee ballots were not counted unless it was a close race and it was mathematically possible for the absentee ballots to alter the results. If the winner wins by 1,000 votes, and there are only 500 absentee ballots, there is no point in counting them. This is why winners are often declared after only a tiny percent of the precincts have tallied their votes. Here in the U.S. they used to be able to declare winners even before the poles closed, based on exit interviews. Often we knew who won before California even got the chance to vote. Fortunately they changed that.


The *news media* declares winners with a tiny percentage of precincts reporting, and sometimes political campaigns would concede before all votes were counted. But official counts have always included absentee ballots. I asked this specific question the last election, and my local clerk seemed downright offended at the suggestion that absentee ballots are only counted in 'close' races. Your claim that exit polling has historically been used to declare official results is not supported by any literature I have ever read, and I'd ask that you provide a source to this claim if it's to be taken seriously.

As far as statistical modeling goes... as someone well-versed in mathematics I can tell you that the primary purpose of statistics and polling is to skew reality to support the opinion of whomever controls the model. "Lies, damn lies, and statistics", as the saying goes. Not in a million years should anyone trust anything a pollster or statistician says.


Interesting, because I was told the opposite by an election official, that they only counted absentee ballots if the election was close.  Hmmmm.

You are right, that exit polling has never been used to declare official results, but many a race has been conceded based on the results of exit polling, combined with a small number of precincts reporting data.  When the exit poles match the percentage in the early precinct reports, news media claims winners, and those waiting for results accept those numbers to claim victory or defeat before all votes are tallied.  The official results are often not reported for days after the election.  In close races, where recounts are required, or requested, it can go on for days.  Then you run into the hanging chad nonsense we saw in Florida back in 2000.  In the recount, most of the controversy was in deciding what counties to recount, and whether or not to count absentee ballots from soldiers serving over seas.  Each side wanted to only count where they would likely do well, and not recount all the ballots.  That election was the first time I had heard about not counting absentee ballots unless needed, and it was reported on the news, which I then checked with my local official. 

Since now I'm confused I went to the National Conference of State Legislatures website to see what they said, and though it is different state to state on when absentee ballots can be processed and when they can be counted and reported, it appears that you are correct, however in my state it says that processing and counting is "At the discretion of the local registrar of voters".   I wonder if that is why I got the answer I did from the local official.  This makes 2000 even more confusing.  Can't wait to see what happens on Tuesday, I suspect another long night, and I'm hoping no riots and violence in the streets.  

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-16-when-absentee-mail-ballot-processing-and-counting-can-begin.aspx

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