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Oct 22, 2020 - 8:02:16 PM
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1516 posts since 4/13/2017

I used Golden Gate P-130s on all of the banjos I build. IMHO, I think they're just as good as Waverlys, because a friend of mine has Waverlys and they turn just as smooth and don't slip either.

I like the pearloid buttons just fine, but are there any other buttons that will fit these tuners?

Oct 22, 2020 - 8:13:06 PM
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Helix

USA

13095 posts since 8/30/2006

smakulainstruments.com has the butterscotch ambers I want.

I spec the same tuners you do. they fit Gotoh.

You have to check the shaft length on the two types of tuners. Mr. Smakula would know. I have to call him for the same reason.

Oct 22, 2020 - 8:46:33 PM

banjonz

New Zealand

11045 posts since 6/29/2003

I suspect the 'Golden Gate' ones are the generic Chinese made ones on the vast majority of Asian made banjos. To be honest, they are a bit of a lottery. I bought a RK Californian here and within a month, one of the tuners self destructed inside. I have seen other similar happenings. Caveat emptor!

Oct 23, 2020 - 4:39:09 AM
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2387 posts since 4/7/2010

I buy a lot of things from Saga, the importer of Golden Gate tuners. As I use and/or sell about 500 sets of Gotoh tuners a year, my Saga sales rep tried to convince me to sell their product. Besides the knob being super cheesy, I let them know that Gotoh tuners are a known quantity. Gotoh products are exceptionally well made with a great deal of quality control. I have been selling them for more than 10 years with very few problems. And at my retail price of $65 per set, they cost less than the Goldengate P-130 tuners. I also offer quantity discounts on 5 or more sets.

A no-brainer in my book.

Bob Smakula
smakula.com

Edited by - Bob Smakula on 10/23/2020 04:43:08

Oct 23, 2020 - 4:58:55 AM

2387 posts since 4/7/2010

@Lemmon Banjos

Sorry I didn't exactly answer your question. I have knobs custom made to fit Gotoh planet & 5th string tuners as well as square shaft ABM planet tuners. The materials I have available are; grained ivoroid, amber color, dark tortoise color, and ebony wood.

I also sell OEM Gotoh knobs with a choice of creamy white, black, or pearloid plastic.

The shaft of a Gotoh planet tuner measures 3.65 mm across the flat sides and 5 mm across the round sides. The shaft length is 12.55 mm ]. My knobs also fit Waverly and 5-Star. I do not know if they will fit the Golden Gate P-130.

Bob Smakula

Oct 23, 2020 - 7:50:02 AM

Helix

USA

13095 posts since 8/30/2006

Bob, I have both tuners here, yes,

I don’t have any Gotoh planets, thus the question on shaft length. Which I measure the same as you with the generics

Yes, we don’t even know what ingredients are used in various spec plastics. I have a little bag of cracked ones

Gotohs are like Shimano bike parts, superior, but be assured the other patent dodgers have some Rickards they are puzzling over = knockoffs??

Off topic: If I had a neck that needed straightening, Bob is the man.

I have a thread going about dying knobs, forget it

I’m now saving up for the Butterscotch Ambers, that’s my new name for them
Thanks Bob, stay ,hold, we all just hunker down, grab a root and growl,

you, too,Hunter


Edited by - Helix on 10/23/2020 07:52:57

Oct 23, 2020 - 8:11:34 AM

Tim13

USA

3157 posts since 4/1/2008

Bob Smakula do you sell the amber tuner knobs that fit the Keith tuner?

Regards,

Tim

Oct 23, 2020 - 8:16:46 AM

2387 posts since 4/7/2010

quote:
Originally posted by Tim13

Bob Smakula do you sell the amber tuner knobs that fit the Keith tuner?

Regards,

Tim


I do not have any options for Keith tuners and no suggestions other than the OEM knobs.

Bob Smakula

Oct 23, 2020 - 8:45:48 AM

Helix

USA

13095 posts since 8/30/2006

I think there’s a lot of wiggle room here, next is printing knobs with custom graphics, GPS and UPC, just kidding about the last two

I cut my own leather washers

Bob, what are the best hardwoods to use for knobs? Besides Ebony and now Snakewood .I have Osage and other bridge scrap Hardwoods

Also what material are your ambers made from? Castings? Machine?

A broken hand-carved ivory guitar tuner was reissued in print form

I like new things that look vintage, thanks for making them available


Oct 23, 2020 - 10:58:47 AM

785 posts since 11/27/2005

Hey Helix!

"Gotohs are like Shimano bike parts, superior, but be assured the other patent dodgers have some Rickards they are puzzling over = knockoffs??"

The design of the Rickards have some "Easter eggs" in it that will make duplicating them very hard. wink

Oct 23, 2020 - 12:12:57 PM

Helix

USA

13095 posts since 8/30/2006

I don’t want them to duplicate

I want them to show gracious recognition of good development by a team of sincere banjo players

The customer and I were both impressed with making personal specs possible with the Rickards we used

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