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Sep 27, 2020 - 6:23:31 PM
5789 posts since 9/5/2006

me and mister groundhog have been at odds for about 3 weeks now,,,,
i sat out there for several mornings and evenings waiting for him,,, no sight.. so i get me a conibear trap and set it at the entrance to the hole under my shop,,, stake it down,, well he roots out one side and goes in beside it.. so i set up and stake it out hard this time with some strawberrys on the trip so he can't move it out of the way. 2 days now and nothing. i believe he is watching me instead of me watching him,,, but he is the one laughing,,, now i am going to build me a box per specs for Ghog and bait it with cantaloupe set it close to his hole,, and set up my game cam just to see his reaction and coming and going times.....

Sep 27, 2020 - 7:03:25 PM
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bubbalouie

Canada

14270 posts since 9/27/2007

We don't have groundhogs here but we do have raccoons & Norway rats. I have trapped many raccoons with Havahart live traps & killed rats with  regular rat traps & TomCat traps. They just banned rat poison here but i still have half a box of warfarin.

I used to work evening shift at a factory & my foreman would ask me to call him to explain different jobs

He had asked earlier if he could borrow my .22 because a ground hog was eating his garden. I called him one night & he said to hang on & I heard some noise when he set the phone down. There are train tracks at the end of his backyard & he was waiting for a train so he could shoot it & his neighbours wouldn't hear!

He came back on & said " Got him!"!

Sep 27, 2020 - 7:11:32 PM
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55756 posts since 12/14/2005

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Originally posted by bubbalouie

We don't have groundhogs here but we do have raccoons & Norway rats. I have trapped many raccoons with Havahart live traps & killed rats with  regular rat traps & TomCat traps. They just banned rat poison here but i still have half a box of warfarin.

I used to work evening shift at a factory & my foreman would ask me to call him to explain different jobs

He had asked earlier if he could borrow my .22 because a ground hog was eating his garden. I called him one night & he said to hang on & I heard some noise when he set the phone down. There are train tracks at the end of his backyard & he was waiting for a train so he could shoot it & his neighbours wouldn't hear!

He came back on & said " Got him!"!


"Momma, where's Daddy?"

"He hopped a train to find a better home for us all. Didn't you hear the train? It was really loud. Louder than a gunshot, even."

Sep 27, 2020 - 7:47:02 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

14270 posts since 9/27/2007

We don't have porcupines here either. That's a good thing! We had them back east & everyone said it was against the law to kill them because if you were ever lost in the woods it was an easy meal to kill with a rock or a stick.

Turns out that was an old woodsmans tale. My uncle owned a woodlot & they were eating down his woods. He called the authorities to ask what he could do. They said he could shoot them but bury them deep if he had dogs!

One of our cousins came out to our Grandpas' family cottage to show off her brand new Early 70's ford Cougar & porkies chewed through her brake lines overnight!  

Edited by - bubbalouie on 09/27/2020 19:48:15

Sep 28, 2020 - 1:29:40 AM
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2078 posts since 4/22/2018

Terry,

I think your groundhog has been talking to my squirrel. I’ve had a trap set for him for a week and so far he’s managed to convince two hedgehogs to take his place in the can.




Sep 28, 2020 - 3:09:23 AM
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2943 posts since 4/29/2012

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Originally posted by Wet Spaniel

Terry,

I think your groundhog has been talking to my squirrel. I’ve had a trap set for him for a week and so far he’s managed to convince two hedgehogs to take his place in the can.


Good to see hedgehogs. Haven't seen one around here for years. We used to have one that had figured out how to climb in through the catflap and eat the cat's food. Thought we had burglars first time it started bumping around the kitchen.

Sep 28, 2020 - 4:04:07 AM

2078 posts since 4/22/2018

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Originally posted by AndrewD
quote:
Originally posted by Wet Spaniel

Terry,

I think your groundhog has been talking to my squirrel. I’ve had a trap set for him for a week and so far he’s managed to convince two hedgehogs to take his place in the can.


Good to see hedgehogs. Haven't seen one around here for years. We used to have one that had figured out how to climb in through the catflap and eat the cat's food. Thought we had burglars first time it started bumping around the kitchen.


That's brilliant!

it is great to see them about, we've found them hibernating whilst gardening so we made some 'houses' which do get used.  The reason for the trap is that we've also recently had red squirrel sightings in and around our village which is very exciting so when a grey squirrel popped up in my garden the other day, it became target number 1.

Sep 28, 2020 - 4:07:05 AM
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2943 posts since 4/29/2012

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Originally posted by Wet Spaniel
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Originally posted by AndrewD
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Originally posted by Wet Spaniel

Terry,

I think your groundhog has been talking to my squirrel. I’ve had a trap set for him for a week and so far he’s managed to convince two hedgehogs to take his place in the can.


Good to see hedgehogs. Haven't seen one around here for years. We used to have one that had figured out how to climb in through the catflap and eat the cat's food. Thought we had burglars first time it started bumping around the kitchen.


That's brilliant!

it is great to see them about, we've found them hibernating whilst gardening so we made some 'houses' which do get used.  The reason for the trap is that we've also recently had red squirrel sightings in and around our village which is very exciting so when a grey squirrel popped up in my garden the other day, it became target number 1.


Looking forward to an FF thread.

Sep 28, 2020 - 5:28:35 AM

2078 posts since 4/22/2018

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Originally posted by AndrewD
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Looking forward to an FF thread.


Safe to say it wont be going on the BBQ, a couple of years back I tried making some 'ironic squirrel satay' on the BBQ - safe to say that i think squirrel lends it self to a nice long braise rather than hot coals - boy was it tough!

Sep 28, 2020 - 6:36:24 AM
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3530 posts since 7/8/2010

The neighborhood groundhog lives under a shed next door. Just like a cat he has the same routine everyday. My two dogs are constantly looking out for him and for squirrels.
They stay away from each other but the squirrels take great delight in teasing the dogs. Only once did the ground hog venture toward our back door. He got chased away.

Sep 28, 2020 - 6:19:06 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

14270 posts since 9/27/2007

I saw a few gray squirrels lately & haven't seen a red one in years. I've read before of a push to get rid of gray squirrels over in England. There's lot's of endangered species here on this island.

We've talked of learning to shoot when we were young. We should put a bounty on grays & teach some kids to enjoy the outdoors. 

This OLD article said it problem then. https://www.campbellrivermirror.com/life/island-wild-red-squirrels-days-may-be-numbered/

Edited by - bubbalouie on 09/28/2020 18:30:42

Sep 28, 2020 - 6:59:23 PM
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2078 posts since 4/22/2018

Bob, I’ve seen one red squirrel in the wild in my lifetime, and I’m over the moon to hear they are making a recurrence. In the first year I moved here I shot 10-15 and didn’t see another for 5 years. In some areas the forestry owners actually have grey squirrel Control guys who spend their days trapping the greys.

Sep 29, 2020 - 4:10:54 AM

5789 posts since 9/5/2006

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Originally posted by Wet Spaniel

Bob, I’ve seen one red squirrel in the wild in my lifetime, and I’m over the moon to hear they are making a recurrence. In the first year I moved here I shot 10-15 and didn’t see another for 5 years. In some areas the forestry owners actually have grey squirrel Control guys who spend their days trapping the greys.


we have grays running out of our ears,,, several oaks in the yard so they have a field day out there.

Sep 29, 2020 - 5:15:31 AM

2943 posts since 4/29/2012

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Originally posted by 1935tb-11
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Originally posted by Wet Spaniel

Bob, I’ve seen one red squirrel in the wild in my lifetime, and I’m over the moon to hear they are making a recurrence. In the first year I moved here I shot 10-15 and didn’t see another for 5 years. In some areas the forestry owners actually have grey squirrel Control guys who spend their days trapping the greys.


we have grays running out of our ears,,, several oaks in the yard so they have a field day out there.


But you're supposed to have them. Sciurus Carolinensis. For use they're a comparatively recent introduced pest.

Edited by - AndrewD on 09/29/2020 05:15:51

Sep 29, 2020 - 5:18:10 AM
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5789 posts since 9/5/2006

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Originally posted by AndrewD
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Originally posted by 1935tb-11
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Originally posted by Wet Spaniel

Bob, I’ve seen one red squirrel in the wild in my lifetime, and I’m over the moon to hear they are making a recurrence. In the first year I moved here I shot 10-15 and didn’t see another for 5 years. In some areas the forestry owners actually have grey squirrel Control guys who spend their days trapping the greys.


we have grays running out of our ears,,, several oaks in the yard so they have a field day out there.


But you're supposed to have them. Sciurus Carolinensis. For use they're a comparatively recent introduced pest.


oh yes i know ,,, they are great when fried with some brown gravy and biscuits ,, but most women today won't mess with them,, and my bride would not eat one for all the money in the world.....

Sep 29, 2020 - 5:18:12 AM

heavy5

USA

1344 posts since 11/3/2016

We have a family of crows that have for years dined on our throw away scraps we throw to them off the back porch . They will eat & then hide the rest in the meadow & then out will come the red fox to sniff out & eat what they hide . This happens almost every day .
Two years ago a mama red fox had 3 pups in an abandon dog coop in the hedge row above the house so very possibly the current crow marauder is one of those . We know when the fox is around as the crows have a hissyfit .

Edited by - heavy5 on 09/29/2020 05:21:02

Sep 29, 2020 - 7:00:31 AM
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2171 posts since 2/10/2013

Terry - Groundhogs often have two holes. He may be sitting by his/her emergency exit, having a snack, and watching you. It seems to be providing entertainment values, and the price is right.

Sep 29, 2020 - 7:12:30 AM

2078 posts since 4/22/2018

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Originally posted by 1935tb-11

oh yes i know ,,, they are great when fried with some brown gravy and biscuits ,, but most women today won't mess with them,, and my bride would not eat one for all the money in the world.....


I think I need to try them again with some gravy - they didn't cook at all well on the grill.  Over here they are an alien pest - accidentally introduced and then they thrived.  They are bigger than, and aggressive to our native red squirrels, and they also carry a virus that is non harmful to themselves but fatal to the red squirrels.  Hence them not being all that popular in areas where the reds are making a comeback.

Sep 29, 2020 - 7:19:04 AM

5789 posts since 9/5/2006

clean and quarter them,, mix some milk and worcestershire sauce in a ziolock bag and through them in and let soak for 4 to 6 hours in the fridge,,, take them out a roll them in flour and season with salt and pepper and a sprinkle of basil,, and pan fry them on medium heat,, while the are cooking go ahead and fix you biscuits and stick the oven,,, when the meat is 90% done,,,mix up you gravy and pour in the meat and cook till gravy is ready.... biscuits should be done by then,,,,,, enjoy !

Edited by - 1935tb-11 on 09/29/2020 07:20:26

Sep 29, 2020 - 7:23:57 AM

5789 posts since 9/5/2006

saw groundhog a hour ago close to the tobacco barn near the house.... snuck around the side of the house like elmer fudd and creaped on the back deck,,GONE... sat there for while,,,nothing.... so he is using the hole under the shop and one in the foundation of the tobacco barn,,,,,, hate'em

Sep 29, 2020 - 1:35:34 PM

heavy5

USA

1344 posts since 11/3/2016

Oct 1, 2020 - 7:28:16 AM

2171 posts since 2/10/2013

In the wild, animals find it hard to obtain salt. When humans sweat, they deposit salt on the handles of canoe paddles, axes, shovels, etc.. That makes them candidates for chewing. When we were in the woods camping, we hung canoe paddles and certain other things over the branch of a tree, out of reach of most culprits.

When I was young and the New York Central Railroad still in existence, refrigerated freight cars were hauled through northern New York State to Canada. They deposited salt along the railroad bed. When I hiked along the railroad tracks I would often see animals looking for or eating that salt.

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