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Sep 27, 2020 - 9:35:12 AM
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I am hopeful that I will be in a position this autumn to buy a Sierra, should they be available in the UK that is. Does anyone know of a video which compares the mahogany with the maple version in the same video? It would be useful to hear the same person play both with the same recording set up. They are in very short supply here at the moment and it is over a 5 hour drive for me to get to try them out, that's if Eagle music happen to have one of each at the same time, apparently people are pre ordering before they arrive here.
Cheers.

Edited by - Texasbanjo on 10/14/2020 14:01:02

Sep 27, 2020 - 1:23:04 PM
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Eric A

USA

840 posts since 10/15/2019

Maybe use the search box for threads about the difference in maple vs mahogany necks in general.

Sep 27, 2020 - 2:16:35 PM

13 posts since 8/11/2020

I will thanks Eric but ultimately it is the Sierra that I am interested in.
I did find one comparison video but to my ears the difference was very marginal, but that's my ears :-).

Edited by - Zummerzet Grazz on 09/27/2020 14:17:01

Sep 27, 2020 - 3:27:17 PM

2 posts since 6/11/2015

I've tried both and while I could hear the difference, it was not that big. Granted they were both new at the store. I don't know if they will show more differences with age. While I decided on getting an eagle ii used from the classifieds I REALLY liked the rustic wreath that they had at the store. If I had the money for it that day I would have gone home with it. If you are special ordering I would look really hard at that one.

 

Edit,

Found a video, he goes back and forth between the maple and the mahogany. And like I said, you can hear the difference but its not a massive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaSXzjKw0M8

Edited by - willgates00000 on 09/27/2020 15:32:08

Sep 27, 2020 - 3:31:01 PM
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Owen

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...nothing to do with the topic at hand, but it reminds me of an exchange I had some time back.  Me: with a Morgan Monroe and woefully inept to boot.  Other guy: Fairly accomplished and with a Deering Sierra.   He had tried to explain something or other to me. Without considering ability or experience, I asked: "How come, when I do it, it doesn't sound anything like when you do it?"  Instead of a verbal answer, he simply pointed to his case with "Deering" on it.  sad

Sep 27, 2020 - 3:44:24 PM

251 posts since 4/28/2019

Zummerzet Grazz , I wish you success in getting a Deering Sierra. I was on a similar quest and was asking the same question prior to ever getting to touch either flavor. About the best comparison video I ever found was at banjobenclark.com, at the STORE tab under the banjo itself: store.banjobenclark.com/collec...with-case
Like you, I found only a marginal difference on the video, especially to an untrained ear! Since then, I've had a chance to try out each, and while there is a difference, it is still marginal in person (to my 2-1/2 years of experience). You will likely love either one.
Based on what I read only, and before having tried them, I had my heart set on Maple. After trying both, decided I would he happy with either...but didn't have the money at the time to buy. Much later found a great deal on a used Mahogany and haven't regretted it.

Sep 28, 2020 - 7:12:55 AM

3501 posts since 3/28/2008

You can't really get a clear picture by comparing just ONE maple Sierra to ONE mahogany Sierra, since every piece of wood is different. You'd have to compare a bunch of each--set up identically--to get an idea of the general qualities of each type of wood. Obviously, that's impractical here.

I think whichever one you get, you should be pretty happy with it, though. They're excellent banjos, in my experience.

Sep 28, 2020 - 9:07:32 AM
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Hi William and Mark, that's the video I found, if I wasn't aware and deliberately listening for the differences I think I may have missed it !!
Ira, I totally agree, I would not expect two supposedly identical banjos to sound exactly the same, I learnt that through years of chasing guitar tone. The thing is, Deering advertise the Sierra as being pretty much identical to the higher end instruments just without the bells and whistles and an uncanny knack of getting them all to sound the same.

Sep 28, 2020 - 2:52:16 PM

2 posts since 6/11/2015

The sierra is not identical to the higher up models. The sierra has a shallower resonator than a lot of the upper models. That does not mean they sound better, just that they will produce a more classic bluegrass sound than the sierra ever will. The rustic wreath is the cheapest banjo makes that falls into that catagory.

Sep 29, 2020 - 7:47:05 AM

11135 posts since 6/2/2008

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Originally posted by willgates00000

The sierra is not identical to the higher up models. The sierra has a shallower resonator than a lot of the upper models. 


Doesn't the Sierra have the same resonator design as all upper level Deering models other than the Golden series?

Sep 29, 2020 - 7:56:58 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory
quote:
Originally posted by willgates00000

The sierra is not identical to the higher up models. The sierra has a shallower resonator than a lot of the upper models. 


Doesn't the Sierra have the same resonator design as all upper level Deering models other than the Golden series?


There are a few others with Mastertone-depth resonators, the Tenbrooks series and the Terry Baucom for sure.

Sep 29, 2020 - 11:16:19 AM
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Learn something new every day.

Oct 10, 2020 - 6:50:22 PM

Tommy5

USA

3620 posts since 2/22/2009

I have a Sierra Maple. Sounds great , easy to play, Maple is advertised to be brighter then the more mellow Mahogany. Me, I can’t really tell the difference, I have the Maple, couldn’t be happier.

Oct 14, 2020 - 11:18:50 AM
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Terry F

USA

95 posts since 2/16/2015

quote:
Originally posted by Tommy5

I have a Sierra Maple. Sounds great , easy to play, Maple is advertised to be brighter then the more mellow Mahogany. Me, I can’t really tell the difference, I have the Maple, couldn’t be happier.


I also have a Sierra Maple (openback) and agree, I can't tell the difference. I also watched the videos posted and I can't tell the difference.

Can't go wrong either way in my opinion.

Oct 17, 2020 - 11:08:22 AM
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rvrose

USA

741 posts since 6/29/2007

A good way to test is to go to a music store like Elderly and take a friend (with an ear for banjos). Play the two banjos and have your friend listen without looking to see which banjo you are playing an give their opinion. It's hard to be subjective when you are playing the banjo and you know which is which if they are close in sound. Of course if you can easily tell the difference then that makes it easy. I was wondering if there was significant difference between the Deering Calico maple and the Stelling maple banjos, so I took my Calico and played both it and a Stelling Redfox. I though I could tell a difference up the neck and my friend overwhelmingly confirmed that the Stelling won the test. I bought a Stelling Golden Cross and love the sound.

Oct 17, 2020 - 12:15:43 PM

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I can hear the difference between the maple and mahogany samples that Robby played, in all 3 keys. It's VERY hard to put into words the difference in what I hear. I prefer the maple. It sounds "richer", a bit more alive and vibrant (without sounding "wet" or "splashy").

Compliments to Robby on his excellent playing.

I have previously posted my own observations (no audio/video) comparing a Greg Rich Granada to a Greg Rich RB 3, both set up as near to the same as I could manage (to my own preferences).  Of course, as the picker instead of as a listener, I had a whole different experience.   But the maple sound had more "complexity" with a tiny and immediate echo-like tone -- perhaps a tiny reverb if you will.  The RB 3 made its tone and that was it, direct and immediate and less "complex".

Edited by - The Old Timer on 10/17/2020 12:18:47

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