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Sep 27, 2020 - 12:37:10 AM
17 posts since 9/24/2020

Hello,
New boy in town wondering if this is really a 1964 Gibson RB 100, the neck looks right to me but not sure about the pot, any ideas welcome,

 I have bought this hoping for it to be a step up from my old Windsor open back  so I can give Bluegrass a real go,  it arrives in the post  tomorrow and the more I look at the photos the more I am concerned it's not what the advert says it it,  any help would be much appreciated, 

Thanks

ps the serial number is on back of headstock is 210500 




 

Edited by - alfienoalkes on 09/27/2020 01:02:31

Sep 27, 2020 - 3:16:25 AM
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1456 posts since 4/13/2017

The neck is correct, but the resonator is wrong. Can we see pics of the inside?

Sep 27, 2020 - 3:17:48 AM
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RioStat

USA

5284 posts since 10/12/2009

That is not an RB 100 (or Gibson) resonator. As for the rest of the pot, can't tell from the photos.

Neck looks legit. 

Post more pics of the pot, inside and outs, when you receive the banjo.

May well be an RB100, with a replacement resonator, and may be a perfectly fine instrument, but if it was sold as a genuine, original Gibson, then the seller was not being truthful.

Sep 27, 2020 - 4:41:31 AM
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1102 posts since 5/19/2018

I’m not exactly sure about that pot. Looks like it has a Flat head tone ring in it. You can kind of see the shadows of the ring beneath the head. Also incorrect tailpiece for a 100.

Sep 27, 2020 - 5:02:57 AM

3414 posts since 4/27/2004

It looks like an RB-100 neck attached to a pot of Asian origin.

Sep 27, 2020 - 5:18:44 AM
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Brett

USA

2356 posts since 11/29/2005

Is that an oversized truss rod cover or just angle of photo?

Sep 27, 2020 - 5:43:24 AM
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17 posts since 9/24/2020

Thanks for replies, Yes i was looking at the truss rod cover as well, also the Arm rest looks wrong and the resonator holding Screws ? will post some internal photos when it arrives, i think possibly it will be going back :(

Edited by - alfienoalkes on 09/27/2020 05:51:19

Sep 27, 2020 - 8:43:12 AM
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2349 posts since 4/7/2010

I have seen plenty of guitar size trussrod covers on 1960's Gibson Banjos.

Bob Smakula

Sep 27, 2020 - 9:16:09 AM
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13375 posts since 10/30/2008

Tension hoop is also wrong, it should be a heavy NOTCHED hoop. This is a thin plain band with no notches. Discernble if you enlarge the photo.

All 5 tuners are non original.

The resonator thumbscrew that's visible is not Gibson.

Sep 27, 2020 - 9:28:26 AM
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Eric A

USA

845 posts since 10/15/2019

quote:
Originally posted by The Old Timer

Tension hoop is also wrong, it should be a heavy NOTCHED hoop. This is a thin plain band with no notches. Discernble if you enlarge the photo.

All 5 tuners are non original.

The resonator thumbscrew that's visible is not Gibson.


Yikes.  Seems like a fatal flaw indeed.

Sep 27, 2020 - 10:04:39 AM

273 posts since 4/14/2017

That serial number is right for 1964, the neck is real, what's under the hood of the replacement resonator is the question. The white line outline on the head looks like an archtop ring to me rather than a flat head, it's a flathead I'd be happy, at least if it were an old one. As most people have pointed out, just about everything else is a replacement, the rim and ring are the big remaining questions.

Sep 27, 2020 - 10:29:43 AM

3349 posts since 5/29/2011

Heads, tuners, tailpieces, and even tension hoops can be replaced. And a lot of old RB100's were converted with a Mastertone ring. But we have to see inside the rim to tell for sure and you can't post more pictures until you have it in your hands.
The resonator is a replacement as mentioned. Whether it is a Gibson neck on an Asian pot, or a Gibson with a number of replacement parts is the question right now.

Sep 27, 2020 - 12:29:01 PM

17 posts since 9/24/2020

Thanks for all the help, More photos to follow on arrival

Sep 28, 2020 - 8:46:38 AM

17 posts since 9/24/2020

Here is a few  photos of the mystery Gibson,  it sounds nice to my untrained ear and feels lovely to play, anymore ideas gratefully received.

(  It cost me  $1250 )






Edited by - alfienoalkes on 09/28/2020 09:02:15

Sep 28, 2020 - 10:13:15 AM
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2003 posts since 1/10/2004

Probably an Asian pot. I don't think anything looks right, other than the single coordinating rod. But hey you get a flat head tone ring of some sort, which a 100 normally wouldn't have. But consider it a parts banjo, not an RB-100.

Edited by - Bradskey on 09/28/2020 10:13:40

Sep 28, 2020 - 11:15:59 AM

17 posts since 9/24/2020

The seller tells me it was bought in Nashville in 1982 and is all ‘Gibson‘ from 1976.

Sep 28, 2020 - 12:05:11 PM
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Eric A

USA

845 posts since 10/15/2019

Has there ever been a Gibson rim with white binding on it like that?

Sep 28, 2020 - 12:28:12 PM

78 posts since 9/27/2014

A Gibson would have different hardware for resonator attachment. Dick mentioned the incorrect tension hoop. I’m with the RB-100 neck on an Asian pot group.

Sep 28, 2020 - 12:30:46 PM
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rcc56

USA

3174 posts since 2/20/2016

Some of the very early TB-4's that were made before the Mastertone tone rings were developed had grained ivoroid [off-white] binding on both the inside and the outside perimeter of the rim. Other than that, the answer is no.

I think you've got a Gibson neck, with the rest of the banjo being of indeterminate origin.  If the rim and tone ring are of good quality and well fitted, it might be a pretty good banjo.  But it is not a Gibson factory product.

Edited by - rcc56 on 09/28/2020 12:34:48

Oct 1, 2020 - 1:09:18 AM

17 posts since 9/24/2020

Does Anyone a a rough idea of a value ?

Oct 4, 2020 - 11:53 AM

17 posts since 9/24/2020

Must be worthless then ?
Anyway I decided to send it back for a refund, its maybe nice to play but I dont think its worth £1300 dollars,
Thanks for all the advice I had no idea, and you all really helped.
I have decided to travel to the USA and find a nice vintage RB 100 try it and bring home in person.

Oct 4, 2020 - 1:40 PM

2003 posts since 1/10/2004

I think you paid a bit much for what it is, so unless it just spoke to you (and you may not be experienced enough to know) I think returning it was best. For the money you could just get a pretty solid new or used Gold Star/Gold Tone/RK bluegrass banjo, unless there’s just some reason you’re specifically looking for an RB-100.

Oct 17, 2020 - 1:17:05 AM
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17 posts since 9/24/2020

Well I sent it back and had a bit of a fight but eventually got my refund, The sellers has just listed it again on REVERB as a Gibson RB 100, Be warned people !

reverb.com/item/34665027-gibson-rb-100

Oct 17, 2020 - 8:22:19 AM

13375 posts since 10/30/2008

The flange looks likely "real" Gibson, based on the photo showing the underside. Bound rim is not Gibson.

Gibson did use those resonator attachment "T" tabs in the 1970s.

I'm gonna guess someone built themself a banjo with an assortment of new and used parts.

The serial number in the back of the peghead suggests 1960s, not 1976.

What it's worth? If solid and playable, something under $1000 in the US.

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