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Sep 25, 2020 - 9:53:07 PM
10 posts since 7/21/2018

Anybody playing Clawhammer blues?

Sep 26, 2020 - 4:55:25 AM
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R Buck

USA

2826 posts since 9/5/2006

Some times, usually on a fretless. It works well with the earlier blues forms and 12 bar but why not?

Sep 26, 2020 - 5:30:34 AM
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Eric A

USA

845 posts since 10/15/2019

I bought this book about a year ago but haven't done anything with it.

Blues Banjo - Fred Sokolow


 

Sep 26, 2020 - 9:30:26 PM
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Paul R

Canada

13207 posts since 1/28/2010

Yup - and with a slide.

Sep 26, 2020 - 9:41:02 PM

10 posts since 7/21/2018

Anybody do anything with Sokolow's book besides collect dust with it?

Is it a good book?

Sep 27, 2020 - 7:07:17 PM
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1010 posts since 1/9/2012

quote:
Originally posted by SeanRussell

Anybody playing Clawhammer blues?


Michael Miles (a professional out of Chicago -- https://www.youtube.com/c/michaeljmiles ), plays clawhammer everything, including lots of Bach.  But he loves to play blues on his Jim Hartle Ashborn reproduction*:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnGKYba9bX0 ,   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NO191r-rBQ .

*regarding the Ashborn replica: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD6rL03jMWI

There's always Gus Cannon -- but he wasn't fixed in how he got sounds out of the banjo...

Edited by - davidppp on 09/27/2020 19:13:26

Sep 27, 2020 - 9:53:36 PM

10 posts since 7/21/2018

Thanks for all the responses

Sep 27, 2020 - 11:24:41 PM

5460 posts since 12/20/2005

I once saw a very talented, professional musician playing blues with a Paramount Style F banjo guitar. Enormous banjo, 18 inch resonator. 16 inch rim is my understanding. It might have been at least 10 years ago that I watched him, probably on YouTube.
I can not remember his name. I believe he was from New York.
Since this is a pretty rare banjo he was playing, I am hoping someone might recognize who It is.

Sep 28, 2020 - 2:28:23 PM
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Lew H

USA

2564 posts since 3/10/2008

I have the Sokolow book, collecting dust. I skimmed the book and mp3 tracks. I didn't notice any clawhammer, but some could be there.
I find that some of the faster blues work really well with clawhammer. Slow blues tend to have a different syncopated rhythm than clawhammer's bum-ditty or constant stream of note.
Here's three that I've done.


Sep 28, 2020 - 3:31:40 PM
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1010 posts since 1/9/2012

Cliff Wagner (from Mississippi?) had a dynamite honky-tonk band out of San Pedro CA, but I couldn't find anything about him from the past several years.  He entered some sort of national contest.  I found the following description on-line:

"The Old #7 gained nation wide exposure on FOX TVs “The Next Great American Band” and played to over 10 million people each week. Originally the show’s judges insisted that the general public would not accept a “Bluegrass” band and the Old #7 would have a short stay on the show. They not only appeared on six of the final shows but finished 7th out of 8,000 bands who originally tried out for the show. This was due to the huge number of fans who showed their support each week by voting to keep Cliff Wagner on the show."

I've never watched FOX, but I heard the band live several times.  It was well work the nearly one hour drive.

The contest required submission of a music video.  Here's the one from The Old #7.  Lew's Mojo Hand reminded me of it right away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UidZ3tzVJ8s&list=PLQyjDlg5tdDc_lT4Q1ZNMJLiENeKpftAx&index=2

Wagner played banjo, pretty much exclusively -- and mostly bluegrass three-finger style, but this is clawhammer, as requested by the OP.

Sep 28, 2020 - 4:22:23 PM
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cevant

USA

49 posts since 2/5/2020

Sometimes you gotta wait a generation for the badass to really get into the DNA.....

youtu.be/Qjh1CIs34bw

Sep 28, 2020 - 5:21:55 PM
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288 posts since 4/13/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Leslie R

I once saw a very talented, professional musician playing blues with a Paramount Style F banjo guitar. Enormous banjo, 18 inch resonator. 16 inch rim is my understanding. It might have been at least 10 years ago that I watched him, probably on YouTube.
I can not remember his name. I believe he was from New York.
Since this is a pretty rare banjo he was playing, I am hoping someone might recognize who It is.


I'm assuming it's probably Dom Flemons you're thinking of with the enormous banjo-guitar:
https://www.wunc.org/post/dom-flemons-holds-those-old-time-roots

Chris

Sep 28, 2020 - 7:48:21 PM
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5460 posts since 12/20/2005

Chris, you made my day !
Dom Flemmons.
That is the man.
I forgot his name and I've been trying remember it for years. I googled everything I could think of and couldn't come up with anything.
It's been a long time since I saw what ever it was that made such an impression.
I don't really recall if he played clawhammer, I just remember that it was good.

I have not yet pulled up any of his music. Just wanted to first say 'Thank You' !

Sep 28, 2020 - 8:19:44 PM

1010 posts since 1/9/2012

You can see and hear him play that banjo on last week's Deering Live video broadcast:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NQEfFN7iSY

Sep 29, 2020 - 3:58:59 AM

4898 posts since 5/14/2007

I find it works for me, but I had to re-think the right hand rhythms. I had to get comfortable with triplets and/or 6/8 time as substitutes for two-beat patterns, along with skip-beat drop thumbing. I sometimes use a bum-bum-ditty-ditty rhythm to get a backbeat feel.

I don't know that Sokolow book, but I'm sure whatever he has to say about blues scales and harmony are good. He is a very good three-finger/melodic style player.

Sep 29, 2020 - 5:08:55 AM

5460 posts since 12/20/2005

quote:
Originally posted by davidppp

You can see and hear him play that banjo on last week's Deering Live video broadcast:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NQEfFN7iSY


On the Deeering broadcast, Dom played a variety of styles on multiple types of banjos. The man can play a banjo !

At one point, Dom played John Henry, on a gourd banjo, most definitely clawhammer style. 

I remember that he was good, but I am amazed with his versatility as an artist.

I was equally impressed with Dom's knowledge of banjos, as well as his knowledge of banjo history. His appreciation and passion for both is inspiring.

Sep 29, 2020 - 5:27:02 AM

5460 posts since 12/20/2005

quote:
Originally posted by John Gribble

I find it works for me, but I had to re-think the right hand rhythms. I had to get comfortable with triplets and/or 6/8 time as substitutes for two-beat patterns, along with skip-beat drop thumbing. I sometimes use a bum-bum-ditty-ditty rhythm to get a backbeat feel.

I don't know that Sokolow book, but I'm sure whatever he has to say about blues scales and harmony are good. He is a very good three-finger/melodic style player.


I'm not familiar with skip beat drop thumbing. Could you explain what that is, or maybe provide any kind of example ?

Thanks

Sep 29, 2020 - 6:16:11 AM

banjot

USA

203 posts since 8/20/2006

Several years ago I went through a jag of relearning open D blues tunes on the banjo in the same tuning. ie. Robt. Wilkins "Prodigal Son," Blind Blake's "Police Dog Blues," and so on. They worked out surprisingly well in both finger style and clawhammer.

Sep 29, 2020 - 6:35:07 AM
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Originally posted by Leslie R

I'm not familiar with skip beat drop thumbing. Could you explain what that is, or maybe provide any kind of example ?

Thanks


Sure. It would be MTxT, a downstroke, thumb, (nothing,) thumb. The count is one and (two) and.

Sep 29, 2020 - 10:47:48 AM
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Lew H

USA

2564 posts since 3/10/2008

davidppp Thanks for posting! This guy's song even sounds a bit like Mojo Workin.

Sep 29, 2020 - 3:53:25 PM
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7107 posts since 11/4/2005

quote:
Originally posted by banjot

Several years ago I went through a jag of relearning open D blues tunes on the banjo in the same tuning. ie. Robt. Wilkins "Prodigal Son," Blind Blake's "Police Dog Blues," and so on. They worked out surprisingly well in both finger style and clawhammer.


You know, I did that too, in open D Tuning, about 50 years ago.  I was playing with a guy who played bottleneck style on a National tri-cone guitar.  We played Police Dog Blues, Statesboro Blues, Fuller Blues, I can't remember what else.  Lately I've gotten back to it some, playing some John Hurt country blues type stuff.  I do think finger style makes the syncopation much easier.

Oct 12, 2020 - 11:34:52 AM
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I really like Jim Arkus's banjo blues. It's been awhile since he's posted anything on the banjo, wish he did more. Some is up picked, some is downpicked.

Stevie Ray Vaughn - Texas Flood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBhCpCWoqiM

Kokomo Arnold - "Milk Cow Blues" 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvhqD0KBmIA

"Baby Please Don't Go"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKpIef6KfvE

"Someday Baby Blues"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhUk3epmniE

Lightnin' Hopkins - Short Haired Woman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8v3MXdCY8Q

Cedell Davis - "She Got the Devil In Her"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu0dXNALWfo

"You Don't Know My Mind"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7jNiPxbjOw

Junior Wells - "Messin' With the Kid"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHN3orEIOQQ

Muddy Waters - Mannish Boy 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ih2tRl_hEQ

Howlin' Wolf - How Many More Years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBt5nnffBd4

RL Burnside - Skinny Woman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f417ZgwBJLA


 

Oct 12, 2020 - 11:42:22 AM

banjopaolo

Italy

1121 posts since 11/6/2008

Taj Mahal

Oct 12, 2020 - 1:51:59 PM
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Wales

93 posts since 6/29/2015

Dan Walsh does some neat funky stuff on banjo clawhammer. Not exactly blues but related. There’s a basic video here:

youtu.be/N-tqP9vrNFc

And he does this tune as well

youtu.be/ALCXM_pTt9s

Oct 12, 2020 - 4:33:09 PM
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Lew H

USA

2564 posts since 3/10/2008

The original post here asked about CLAWHAMMER blues. Mostly people are citing finger picking blues. I keep being disappointed by these posts, although I appreciate the quality of some of the pickers.

Oct 13, 2020 - 12:01:30 PM
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banjopaolo

Italy

1121 posts since 11/6/2008

Here’s one of my tunes, I don’t know of it is Blues, surely in has a bluesy feel... and I think it’s clawhammer....
Hope you enjoy


Edited by - banjopaolo on 10/13/2020 12:02:35

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