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Sep 20, 2020 - 9:32:24 AM
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2395 posts since 12/11/2008

Dark songs actually make feel better in troubled times. This is my absolute favorite Dock Boggs song, and I find myself singing it a lot these days. Can't get it out of my head; don't want to. I believe this was from Dock's second session on the Lonesome Ace label...my favorite label name as well. So I reckon he's playing his new Mastertone, not the open back mail order banjo in the photo. The roses have bloomed, and seem to be fading everywhere. Thank you Dock; you are an artist and a prophet.

https://youtu.be/q2O7rdbst_o

Sep 20, 2020 - 11:05:25 AM
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Emiel

Austria

9586 posts since 1/22/2003

Yes, I love that one too. The text was written by E. Meyer, the owner of Lonesome Ace ("Without a Yodel"). It is unknown, where the melody comes from. It cannot be clearly linked to any known tune…

Sep 20, 2020 - 2:20:30 PM
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Emiel

Austria

9586 posts since 1/22/2003

And yes, he is playing that Gibson RB-3 archtop.

Sep 20, 2020 - 4:07:17 PM
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1097 posts since 5/19/2018

Doc Boggs- Nothin he does makes any rational sense. The tunings. The melodies and rhythms, much less the words.

All together...it’s just perfect. Beyond perfect.

Thanks for posting that one.

Sep 20, 2020 - 8:17:56 PM
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2395 posts since 12/11/2008

Thanks Emiel and Alvin for the info and your input.

Sep 23, 2020 - 9:18:34 AM

664 posts since 6/9/2009

quote:
Originally posted by Emiel

Yes, I love that one too. The text was written by E. Meyer, the owner of Lonesome Ace ("Without a Yodel"). It is unknown, where the melody comes from. It cannot be clearly linked to any known tune…


Meyer wrote the B-side, "False Hearted Lover's Blues," but didn't write this one. Sounds much more like something from Dock's repetoire.

Sep 23, 2020 - 11:31:22 AM
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288 posts since 4/13/2007

quote:
Originally posted by BobTheGambler
quote:
Originally posted by Emiel

Yes, I love that one too. The text was written by E. Meyer, the owner of Lonesome Ace ("Without a Yodel"). It is unknown, where the melody comes from. It cannot be clearly linked to any known tune…


Meyer wrote the B-side, "False Hearted Lover's Blues," but didn't write this one. Sounds much more like something from Dock's repetoire.


W.E. Myer wrote the lyrics for all four songs that Dock Boggs recorded at the Lonesome Ace session. Dock was interviewed about this in the 1960s. Dock chose/invented the melodies. Myer suggested using the tune of "Country Blues" for "False-Hearted Lover," which was the only suggestion Dock took him up on. "Rub Alcohol" sounds to me like Dock made the melody. "Lost Love" is to the tune of "Short Life of Trouble" and "Will Sweethearts" is similar to "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down."

Myer also wrote songs for Emry Arthur to record and at least two songs for Mississippi John Hurt, "Richland Women's Blues" and "Let the Mermaids Flirt With Me," but Hurt was unable to get a session before the Depression intervened. Hurt recorded both those songs in the '60s; the two men never met, only corresponded by letter. I'm not sure if Boggs met Myer or not; I think not and that they only corresponded as well.

Chris

Sep 23, 2020 - 12:54:04 PM
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664 posts since 6/9/2009

Shows what I know! I knew about the other ones being written by Myer, but for some reason thought this one got brought to the session by Dock. Maybe I was thrown by the Boggs-ish melody.

Sep 23, 2020 - 1:15:52 PM
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288 posts since 4/13/2007

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Originally posted by BobTheGambler

Shows what I know! I knew about the other ones being written by Myer, but for some reason thought this one got brought to the session by Dock. Maybe I was thrown by the Boggs-ish melody.


If you compare the lyrics of "Rub Alcohol" and John Hurt's "Let the Mermaids Flirt With Me," you'll be in no doubt that they share the same lyricist! Hurt set "Mermaids" to the tune of "Waiting for a Train."

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