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Sep 21, 2020 - 7:40:29 AM

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So I just finished the "first act" of this whole deal at about 17,500 words. At the end of this first act, is the part where the reader will be like, "WHAT?!!?!?"

Sep 21, 2020 - 8:41:28 AM
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rinemb

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12693 posts since 5/24/2005

My daughter has been with an independent book seller for about 20 years. Thus, I have been to countless lectures, author events, publisher events, etc.

A publisher once commented (in their parameters) that a novel should be at least 300 pages long or longer. One reason...even the common reader wants value for the money. And a reader has to pay about as much for a 200 page book as 300 pages. Further commenting that the publishing expense for a 200 page book is similar to 300. Even novel readers want more for their money (longer reading time), I guess. besides quality and enjoyment of the read. These "rules" don't necessarily apply to popular authors with huge followings who get a pass on some writer/publisher guidelines, though I assume not many.
Brad

Sep 21, 2020 - 8:55:02 AM

kww

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Originally posted by rinemb

My daughter has been with an independent book seller for about 20 years. Thus, I have been to countless lectures, author events, publisher events, etc.

A publisher once commented (in their parameters) that a novel should be at least 300 pages long or longer.


Not surprisingly, an 80K word novel will be just shy of 300 pages in standard paperback form, somewhat less in trade paperback.

Sep 21, 2020 - 9:08:39 AM
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rinemb

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12693 posts since 5/24/2005

We may need a [WRF], eh. Seems to be quite a few folks on BHO that write, teach writing and literature, and readers...including poetry, novels, shorts, non-fiction, etc.
Brad

Sep 21, 2020 - 3:21:17 PM
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Bill Rogers (Moderator)

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If you don't already have it, get and read through The Elements of Style by William Strunk and E.B. White. It has clear advice about pretty much everything you need to know about good writing.

https://www.amazon.com/William-Strunk-Jr/e/B000AQ6TSQ?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_3&qid=1600638434&sr=8-3


That will decrease his word count. smiley


Indeed, because S & W's key points are "Prefer the active voice." and "Omit needless words."

Sep 21, 2020 - 9:46:35 PM
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So I just finished the "first act" of this whole deal at about 17,500 words. At the end of this first act, is the part where the reader will be like, "WHAT?!!?!?"


I'm guessing that's where you put in the stammering whale with Tourette's. That's gonna be awesome.

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