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Weird Stelling Red Fox binding

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Jul 19, 2020 - 8:12:18 PM
1518 posts since 1/2/2006

Anyone ever seen binding like this on a Stelling? Not sure if Stelling did this or if it was repaired or customized.

Jul 20, 2020 - 4:11:05 AM

484 posts since 4/28/2012

Are you referring to the yellow color or the substandard fit to the neck?

Could be the result of time and exposure to the heat/cold.

The change in color is not uncommon on the binding.

Edited by - Mark Douglas on 07/20/2020 04:15:40

Jul 20, 2020 - 4:59:53 AM

2326 posts since 12/31/2005

I assumed it was a reference to the inlaid binding on the side of the peghead that wraps around to the volute.

Jul 20, 2020 - 5:26:51 AM

virginian

Canada

22 posts since 11/30/2006

Have never seen a Red Fox with that around the peghead and i have had 2 of them.

Jul 20, 2020 - 5:41:14 AM

banjoy

USA

9139 posts since 7/1/2006

Is that binding? It almost appears to be laminated layers, kind of like peghead overlays or layers except all the way through front to back ... a sandwiched headstock if you will ... and then shaped for the volute etc...? Anyway, it looks like laminates rather than binding ...  maybe ... ?

Edited by - banjoy on 07/20/2020 05:42:43

Jul 20, 2020 - 5:55:04 AM
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pjfolino

Australia

657 posts since 9/20/2011

Geoff will know. He's quite responsive to emails.

Jul 20, 2020 - 6:08:17 AM

2326 posts since 12/31/2005

quote:
Originally posted by banjoy

Is that binding? It almost appears to be laminated layers, kind of like peghead overlays or layers except all the way through front to back ... a sandwiched headstock if you will ... and then shaped for the volute etc...? Anyway, it looks like laminates rather than binding ...  maybe ... ?


You may be right, but my questions then would be: (1) can you get wood that white; and (2) if not, what synthetic material could you laminate with wood and not have separation issues when temp/humidity change.  Remember ebanol?

Jul 20, 2020 - 6:15:31 AM

banjoy

USA

9139 posts since 7/1/2006

You make good points. There are white hardwoods out there (I don't know my species to cite any here) but that looks like plastic to me too ... but what an usual thing to do it that's what it is. Then also, it could be some sort of interesting neck crack repair? Just grasping at ideas here, it is very unusual but cool looking whatever it is. It could just be really really unusual binding, but then, it's not binding the entire peghead, it just appears in the middle of the layers ... which is why it seems like laminates.

Maybe Geoff Stelling might shed light on it? I guess I'm just curious now ... like everyone else :)

Edited by - banjoy on 07/20/2020 06:18:53

Jul 20, 2020 - 6:37:37 AM

1518 posts since 1/2/2006

I'm going to look at it in person tonight. I'll let you know what I find out! I was thinking last night that maybe its actually painted on or white pinstripe someone has added to it. Sandwiching a laminate plastic in between two pieces of wood on the headstock just doesn't make sense. We'll see!

Jul 20, 2020 - 7:25:03 AM

AJA

USA

300 posts since 1/29/2006

It appears to be some kind of tape, not a lamination. In the picture of the back of the peg head, under the low-D tuner, you can see where it has pulled away slightly from the peg head. 


 

Jul 20, 2020 - 8:14:58 AM

1518 posts since 1/2/2006

Yep. That's why I think it may be a white pinstripe (tape) someone put on it. Why?? I have no idea. But I'll find out tonight! It's like solving a mystery! lol

Jul 20, 2020 - 8:18:44 AM

1518 posts since 1/2/2006

BTW Geoff responded to my post in the Stelling owners group and said he didn't do it. So it's definitely something someone added later. I'll take some pics of it tonight and let you guys know what it really going on there. If it's nothing but pinstripe tape I may end up with the banjo anyway...if it sounds good. But if it's some weird repair or modification I won't be getting it.

Jul 20, 2020 - 8:24:52 AM
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1518 posts since 1/2/2006

You can actually see it pulling away here too. So I am pretty sure it's just pinstripe tape. Plus it is really stark white. Weird. If I get it I'll definitely be pulling that off. lol

Jul 20, 2020 - 2:02:22 PM

beegee

USA

21840 posts since 7/6/2005

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Skinner

Yep. That's why I think it may be a white pinstripe (tape) someone put on it. Why?? I have no idea. But I'll find out tonight! It's like solving a mystery! lol


I have seen a lot of "customized" instruments over the years. My favorite is the prismatic tape around guitar tops to simulate "abalone."  I also think I have seen more than my fair share of rhinestones glued on or inlaid. Bits of plastic toothbrush handles. Stick-on letters. Stick-on pinstripes, decals, hand-painted "artwork." Years ago, David Sheppard, a luthier in Greensboro, had an old D-18 that someone had stuck letters on the top "B-O-B" When the stickers were removed the name BOB stood out white on the aged pumpkin top. So it had been on there a while. I always kicked myself for not buying that guitar.

But as they say, "There is no accounting for taste."  Or lack of it.

Jul 20, 2020 - 2:30:08 PM
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10700 posts since 1/15/2005

I'm like Frank and the first thing I thought of was a peghead repair.

Jul 21, 2020 - 1:48:23 PM
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1518 posts since 1/2/2006

I saw it in person last night and I was right, it was pinstripe tape! LOL I just peeled it off. Mystery is solved!

Jul 21, 2020 - 1:57:38 PM

banjoy

USA

9139 posts since 7/1/2006

I just love a good banjo whodunnit.

Rather than remove it, why don't you just replace it with an upgrade?

cool

Jul 24, 2020 - 12:25:08 AM

tonwil

USA

751 posts since 8/28/2011

Id love to have a red fox with tortoise binding, including the peghead!

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