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Apr 8, 2020 - 1:44:01 PM

Brett

USA

2155 posts since 11/29/2005

Banjo from pawn shop out west. Looks like handmade metal pot, stamped ODE early cam tuners and tailpiece, who knows what all. Plays good and loud.


Apr 8, 2020 - 1:44:37 PM

Brett

USA

2155 posts since 11/29/2005

More pix in my photos

Apr 8, 2020 - 1:45:46 PM

Brett

USA

2155 posts since 11/29/2005

I think the metal welded pot is Strom??? No clue who made neck. There maybe a million of these laying around but it’s first I’ve seen.

Apr 8, 2020 - 2:20:42 PM

870 posts since 5/19/2018

The pot is either a Strom or Richelieu pot. Tone ring is indicative of either brand. Same with the resonator.

Miller? No idea. Never seen that name on any banjo. Maybe a Japanese neck grafted to a Strom / Richelieu pot.

Not going to make a guess on the cam tuners without seeing the pegs on them.

Apr 8, 2020 - 2:40:07 PM

Brett

USA

2155 posts since 11/29/2005

ODE stamped cam tuners.




 

Apr 8, 2020 - 2:42 PM

870 posts since 5/19/2018

OK. They look like early 50’s. Wabash Scruggs D tuners.

 

except they are stamped Ode on top.

See here:

Edited by - Alvin Conder on 04/08/2020 14:43:45

Apr 8, 2020 - 2:42:27 PM

Brett

USA

2155 posts since 11/29/2005

It had matched set of Grover permatension tuners, other than the ode marked cam tuners. I emailed Ome, and they indicated only the cams and tailpiece were Ode. The tuners work and hold, but they’re kinda tedious to set. I’m going to put gotohs on it.

Apr 8, 2020 - 2:44:51 PM
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Brett

USA

2155 posts since 11/29/2005

Yes, I have all the parts, just stripped it down for thorough cleaning. The strings must’ve been from 1965. I was scared I’d get tetanus optically within 3 feet of it. It cleaned up really nice. Sounds and plays decent. Like any pots like these, they’re not as light as you’d think.

Apr 10, 2020 - 2:09:32 AM

2048 posts since 1/16/2010

Man...doesn’t have to be an expensive Gibson to sound good. I’m interested in hearing it when you get her together and she’s all settled in.

Dow

Apr 10, 2020 - 5:01:04 AM

Brett

USA

2155 posts since 11/29/2005

I can’t resist buying an older AMerican made banjo. It even had a Lifton hard case. It’d been on Internet forever I guess for $350. I didn’t blink an eye.
I’m surprised no one out there in Banjoland has never heard or seen.
I am about positive the pot is a Strom. I know Ode used to sell parts. The neck is what stumps me.
Apparently Mitchell Ampliphonic Pioneers don’t hit the market often. Patina would suggest early to mid 60s from my guess.

Apr 10, 2020 - 12:49:25 PM

Brett

USA

2155 posts since 11/29/2005

Excuse me, typed Mitchell earlier, it’s Miller. I heard back from Pat Cloud. Only reference to these banjos is some BHO reference to Pat Cloud used to play one in 1967. He was kind enough to confirm that, and mentioned the guys name was Russ Miller. So, whoever Russ Miller was, apparently he was trying to put out some banjos.
I do wonder if this isn’t Pat Clouds’ old banjo, because I recall it was Long Beach pawnshop and he lives in Long Beach. Can’t imagine there are too many of these around given the sparse welcome I’ve received from the Russ MILLER Ampliphonic Pioneer Banjo Worldwide Collectors Organization......

Apr 12, 2020 - 5:52:10 AM

figmo59

USA

31032 posts since 3/5/2008

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