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Apr 6, 2020 - 5:26:27 PM
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Paul R

Canada

12696 posts since 1/28/2010

National Tartan Day?

I didn't until I checked the date.

"Tartan Day is a North American celebration of Scottish heritage on April 6, the date on which the Declaration of Arbroath was signed in 1320. It originated in Canada in the mid-1980s. It spread to other communities of the Scottish diaspora in the 1990s."

There's still time to get out your swords and dance.

Apr 6, 2020 - 5:36:13 PM
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Mooooo

USA

7816 posts since 8/20/2016

I'd love to celebrate it, but I don't have a sword or a skirt to dance around in...as far as you know.

Apr 6, 2020 - 5:49:30 PM
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Tobus

USA

2175 posts since 11/17/2015

Yes it is!




Edited by - Tobus on 04/06/2020 17:50:29

Apr 7, 2020 - 1:31:33 AM
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m06

England

8738 posts since 10/5/2006

For me 'National Tartan Day' is fixedly a day in August 1968.

Family holiday in Scotland. Trip to Edinburgh. Kid brother. Bored elder sisters. Tartan tourist emporium. Matching bow-tie and zip-up bootie slippers.

Suffice to say it's taken years of counselling for this English southerner to deal with. And no you're not seeing photographs. smiley

Edited by - m06 on 04/07/2020 01:38:39

Apr 7, 2020 - 2:30:55 AM
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I’ve only ever worn a kilt the once. We have family in Scotland and were going to celebrate Hogmanay (new year) at a ceilidh in a place called Peebles. We asked our hosts if it would be acceptable or not offensive if us sassenachs wore kilts. They thought it would be a nice fun gesture so we all kilted up - strange sensation 1, wearing a kilt and 2, going commando whilst wearing a kilt smiley but great fun

Edited by - Wet Spaniel on 04/07/2020 02:32:24

Apr 7, 2020 - 4:08:21 AM
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Paul R

Canada

12696 posts since 1/28/2010

Daughter when she was a student at Queen's U. (on the left, with the flute), in Queen's Bands. Go Gaels!


 

Apr 7, 2020 - 5:35:48 AM
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54457 posts since 12/14/2005

Dang! I missed it.

We Gregorys are distant relative of the Haigs, who made a good deal of money off Haig & Haig whiskey, and occupy Bremersyde Castle.

 

Apr 7, 2020 - 5:51:54 AM
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DC5

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The Tartan was outlawed by the Dress Act of 1746


"From and after the first day of August, one thousand seven hundred and forty seven, no Man or Boy, within that part of Great Britain called Scotland, other than such as shall be employed as Officers and Soldiers in His Majesty's Forces, shall, on any pretence whatsoever wear or put on the Clothes commonly called Highland Clothes (that is to say) the Plaid, Philabeg, or little Kilt, Trowse, Shoulder Belts, or any part whatsoever of what peculiarly belongs to the Highland Garb; and that no Tartan, or party-coloured Plaid or Stuff shall be used for Great Coats, or for Upper Coats; and if any such Person shall presume after the first day of August, to wear or put on the aforesaid Garments, or any part of them, every such Person so offending, being convicted thereof by the Oath of One or more credible Witness or Witnesses before any Court of Justiciary or any one or more Justices of the Peace for the Shire or Stewartry, or Judge Ordinary of the Place where such Offence shall be committed, shall suffer imprisonment, without Bail, during the space of Six Months, and no longer, and that being convicted for a second Offence before a Court of Justiciary, or at the Circuits, shall be liable to be transported to any of His Majesty's Plantations beyond the Seas, there to remain for the space of Seven Years."

Source http://www.tartansauthority.com/resources/archives/the-archives/scobie/tartan-and-the-dress-act-of-1746/

Apr 7, 2020 - 8:47:38 AM
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m06

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8738 posts since 10/5/2006

quote:
Originally posted by DC5

The Tartan was outlawed by the Dress Act of 1746


"From and after the first day of August, one thousand seven hundred and forty seven, no Man or Boy, within that part of Great Britain called Scotland, other than such as shall be employed as Officers and Soldiers in His Majesty's Forces, shall, on any pretence whatsoever wear or put on the Clothes commonly called Highland Clothes (that is to say) the Plaid, Philabeg, or little Kilt, Trowse, Shoulder Belts, or any part whatsoever of what peculiarly belongs to the Highland Garb; and that no Tartan, or party-coloured Plaid or Stuff shall be used for Great Coats, or for Upper Coats; and if any such Person shall presume after the first day of August, to wear or put on the aforesaid Garments, or any part of them, every such Person so offending, being convicted thereof by the Oath of One or more credible Witness or Witnesses before any Court of Justiciary or any one or more Justices of the Peace for the Shire or Stewartry, or Judge Ordinary of the Place where such Offence shall be committed, shall suffer imprisonment, without Bail, during the space of Six Months, and no longer, and that being convicted for a second Offence before a Court of Justiciary, or at the Circuits, shall be liable to be transported to any of His Majesty's Plantations beyond the Seas, there to remain for the space of Seven Years."

Source http://www.tartansauthority.com/resources/archives/the-archives/scobie/tartan-and-the-dress-act-of-1746/

 


Too bloody late. I needed that document in August 1968...

 

Is it retrospective legally speaking?

Apr 7, 2020 - 9:04:13 AM
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DC5

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quote:
Originally posted by m06
quote:
Originally posted by DC5

The Tartan was outlawed by the Dress Act of 1746


"From and after the first day of August, one thousand seven hundred and forty seven, no Man or Boy, within that part of Great Britain called Scotland, other than such as shall be employed as Officers and Soldiers in His Majesty's Forces, shall, on any pretence whatsoever wear or put on the Clothes commonly called Highland Clothes (that is to say) the Plaid, Philabeg, or little Kilt, Trowse, Shoulder Belts, or any part whatsoever of what peculiarly belongs to the Highland Garb; and that no Tartan, or party-coloured Plaid or Stuff shall be used for Great Coats, or for Upper Coats; and if any such Person shall presume after the first day of August, to wear or put on the aforesaid Garments, or any part of them, every such Person so offending, being convicted thereof by the Oath of One or more credible Witness or Witnesses before any Court of Justiciary or any one or more Justices of the Peace for the Shire or Stewartry, or Judge Ordinary of the Place where such Offence shall be committed, shall suffer imprisonment, without Bail, during the space of Six Months, and no longer, and that being convicted for a second Offence before a Court of Justiciary, or at the Circuits, shall be liable to be transported to any of His Majesty's Plantations beyond the Seas, there to remain for the space of Seven Years."

Source http://www.tartansauthority.com/resources/archives/the-archives/scobie/tartan-and-the-dress-act-of-1746/

 


Too bloody late. I needed that document in August 1968...

 

Is it retrospective legally speaking?


It's your country that outlawed it, how would I know?  I happened to find it while I was looking up my family Tartan for a Robert Burns celebration.  My guess is that it has been repealed, as well as reviled. 

First they came for our skirts, then they came for our guns. 

Edited by - DC5 on 04/07/2020 09:08:42

Apr 7, 2020 - 11:28:23 AM
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m06

England

8738 posts since 10/5/2006

Scottish ancestry? Whereabouts in Scotland are your family from?

Apr 7, 2020 - 1:23:18 PM
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Paul R

Canada

12696 posts since 1/28/2010

Oh, and the piper at daughter's wedding.


Apr 7, 2020 - 1:33 PM
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DC5

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Originally posted by m06

Scottish ancestry? Whereabouts in Scotland are your family from?


British Isles ancestry.  Mostly Irish, Welch, and English.  Scottish, TTBOMK, is mostly via oral vaccine.  The Clark name (also Clarke) is derived from Cleric and/or Clerk and the Tartan for Cleric will do me just fine.  I could find no differences on sites that sell Tartans between Irish and Scottish, as apparently the clan names were the same.  Don't know enough about all the history, but if I need to wear a kilt, I'd like it in the family Tartan. 

Apr 8, 2020 - 2:05:53 AM
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m06

England

8738 posts since 10/5/2006

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Originally posted by Paul R

Oh, and the piper at daughter's wedding.


My wife's mother had a piper play at her wedding when she remarried. Nice touch.

But with a full set of large pipes. And for some reason he must've been asked to play indoors in the very low-ceilinged room where the wedding supper was held. In that confined space it was like an aural neutron bomb being detonated. Wedding cake and trays of champagne glasses untouched. The human guests pretty much instantly floored with our hearing and brain cells wiped out for days. indecisionwink

Edited by - m06 on 04/08/2020 02:08:06

Apr 8, 2020 - 5:53:43 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by m06
quote:
Originally posted by Paul R

Oh, and the piper at daughter's wedding.


My wife's mother had a piper play at her wedding when she remarried. Nice touch.

But with a full set of large pipes. And for some reason he must've been asked to play indoors in the very low-ceilinged room where the wedding supper was held. In that confined space it was like an aural neutron bomb being detonated. Wedding cake and trays of champagne glasses untouched. The human guests pretty much instantly floored with our hearing and brain cells wiped out for days. indecisionwink


Yikes!

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