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Apr 5, 2020 - 6:50:39 AM
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Apr 5, 2020 - 7:59:50 AM

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Good food for thought, Fred.

Apr 5, 2020 - 8:28:56 AM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

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Interesting, but I sincerely doubt anyone would take that long or actually go to that much trouble to put up groceries.

And for those of us who are seniors and live alone and have no one to shop for us, we have no recourse except to go to the store and hope we don't get the virus.

Apr 5, 2020 - 8:44:43 AM
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Brian T

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I consider myself very fortunate.
I email my grocery list to my volunteer, we discuss it on the phone.
I give verbal credit card info.
She shops and delivers my groceries inside my front door.
I can't stand up in line, outdoors in the winter, waiting for my turn in the store.

There are networks of volunteers arising all over the continent.
They don't spend money on advertising that fact.
You have to go looking for them.
OR
they are a legacy coming from pre-existing aid programs such as Better-At-Home.
That's what mine is.

Apr 5, 2020 - 9:22:20 AM

Owen

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... after watching that, I'm thinking I better make reservations with the crematorium.... my wife and I are surely guaranteed-no-ifs-and-buts-it's-a-done-deal goners.   

My wife's and my approach lies between that in the video and "hope for the best,"  ... but possibly closer to the latter.   We listen to the [sometimes conflicting] advice .... run it through our common sense filters .... and let that guide our actions [at least to the extent the current restrictions allow].

Edited by - Owen on 04/05/2020 09:23:40

Apr 5, 2020 - 9:25:05 AM

5226 posts since 9/16/2004

quote:
Originally posted by Texasbanjo

Interesting, but I sincerely doubt anyone would take that long or actually go to that much trouble to put up groceries.

And for those of us who are seniors and live alone and have no one to shop for us, we have no recourse except to go to the store and hope we don't get the virus.


We need you Sherry.  Please follow this PSA

Cleaning food is very simple.   Returning from the grocer (without touching your face) set the bags of food on your porch or better yet, on the lawn near an outdoor water source.   Get a clean cardboard box with a clean towel inside.

Put groceries on the lawn.

Throw away the bags the groceries came in (if using a fabric reusable bag, wash it.) 

Wash each food item with soap and water.  Fruit can be washed together in a large wash bucket.

Rinse each food item with water.

Place clean food in box with towel.

Bring inside and use as needed.

Apr 5, 2020 - 9:27:21 AM

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I'm planning on going more to my local farmer's markets out in the open air and I'm looking into WalMart pre-bagging my phoned in orders.

My common sense tells me I know very little about this kind of thing and will do whatever the real scientists say is best.

There's really only one thing to do...stay home and don't go out visiting friends or family.

Edited by - steve davis on 04/05/2020 09:34:26

Apr 5, 2020 - 9:57:21 AM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

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Originally posted by Frisco Fred
quote:
Originally posted by Texasbanjo

Interesting, but I sincerely doubt anyone would take that long or actually go to that much trouble to put up groceries.

And for those of us who are seniors and live alone and have no one to shop for us, we have no recourse except to go to the store and hope we don't get the virus.


We need you Sherry.  Please follow this PSA

Cleaning food is very simple.   Returning from the grocer (without touching your face) set the bags of food on your porch or better yet, on the lawn near an outdoor water source.   Get a clean cardboard box with a clean towel inside.

Put groceries on the lawn.

Throw away the bags the groceries came in (if using a fabric reusable bag, wash it.) 

Wash each food item with soap and water.  Fruit can be washed together in a large wash bucket.

Rinse each food item with water.

Place clean food in box with towel.

Bring inside and use as needed.

 


Thank you and I appreciate what you've said but..... when you're my age, you have enough trouble just getting groceries, much less spending half a day running from the front porch to the back of the house picking up one item and washing it.  Too much trouble and I have a feeling most people feel the same.

If I left my food outside, it wouldn't be there when I went to get it. I don't leave anything on the front porch.

I think we can be entirely too germ free phobic.  

Apr 5, 2020 - 10:07:58 AM
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I had 2 staph skin infections last year and I started the intense washing ,cleaning , & sterilizing. You can make yourself crazy getting too picky and wondering what you touched and which clothes to throw in the laundry hamper, etc. I am still fastidious, but que sera, sera. I eat a lot of foods and herbs that boost my immune system. 

Edited by - chuckv97 on 04/05/2020 10:08:38

Apr 5, 2020 - 10:25:43 AM

m06

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8751 posts since 10/5/2006

quote:
Originally posted by Texasbanjo

Interesting, but I sincerely doubt anyone would take that long or actually go to that much trouble to put up groceries.

And for those of us who are seniors and live alone and have no one to shop for us, we have no recourse except to go to the store and hope we don't get the virus.


Can you ask neighbours?

I collect groceries for two elderly neighbours and my sister/brother-in-law who live locally and are currently in total self-isolation. People round here are offering and happy to help elderly and less mobile neighbours, and getting the most out of one trip to the store it makes sense to run errands and buy for more than one household. I let them know when I'm next heading out for food, they all email me their shopping list, I put the receipt in the grocery bag when I drop it round and I find I've been paid by those neighbours and family via online banking before I even get home myself.

Edited by - m06 on 04/05/2020 10:36:37

Apr 5, 2020 - 10:28:12 AM
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Owen

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Working in fishing [as a summer student], construction and farming has provided me with many actual examples of "2 men can [depending on the variables] do 3 or 4 X the work of one man."  So here's a common sense (?) question:  Is it better for my wife and I to shop together and spend 20 [relatively calm] minutes in the store? .... or one of us do the shopping and spend 50 [relatively frustrating] minutes in the store?     

Edit:  My lawn is under 2 feet of snow, and the garden hoses that I neglected to drain last fall are frozen solid.  One of the cables on my garage door recently packed it in [I've got the replacement cable, and am just waiting for some warmer weather so I can do the deed].   My gimpy knees don't want to make any more trips up/down the 5 steps from ground level to the main floor of the house than necessary in order to get my groceries inside.   I wonder what advice the scientists have for me. cheeky   

P.S. Surely there's a song within my list of my "woes."   Maybe more blues than bluegrass... but I'll leave that to somebody else.

Edited by - Owen on 04/05/2020 10:40:46

Apr 5, 2020 - 10:38:57 AM

m06

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quote:
Originally posted by Owen

>Working in fishing [as a summer student], construction and farming has provided me with many concrete examples of "2 men can [depending on the variables] do 3 or 4 X the work of one man."  So here's a common sense (?) question:  Is it better for my wife and I to shop together and spend 20 [relatively calm] minutes in the store? .... or one of us do the shopping and spend 50 [relatively frustrating] minutes in the store? <  

 


Honestly? When I go alone, I get the food shopping done in a quarter of the time. Because I don't browse. surprise

Edited by - m06 on 04/05/2020 10:39:40

Apr 5, 2020 - 10:48:02 AM
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Owen

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Yep, Mike, honestly [surely you've seen enuff of my posts to realize that I only post the straight goods  wink ].  We use a list. We can simultaneously pick up things from the same area of the store. One of us can "go back" [when our list doesn't match the store lay-out], and we can provide each other with "guidance" [on the remote chance that one of us can't find something or other].     Granted, it might not be applicable to your situation .... what's your answer if it's a hypothetical question?

Same kind of question re. passing a vehicle out on a 2-lane highway.  So long as it's done safely , is it better to pull out, maintain the speed limit and take "X" seconds to complete the pass and pull back in?  ... or is it better to speed a bit and spend .50(X) or .75(X) seconds over in the "other" lane?

Edited by - Owen on 04/05/2020 11:01:18

Apr 5, 2020 - 11:00:42 AM
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Brian T

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I shop from a list. I make one pass through the grocery store. Maybe do some impulse shopping along the way
but I never back up or browse. I know what I want to eat. My legs tire easily so I can't diddle around.

Climbing stairs with a cane AND groceries is hard for me to do.
We are not allowed to use cloth bags in the stores any more.
So I put those bags at the bottom of the stairs and load them with groceries
which I can hump up the steps, two at a time. Slow, but I get there.

I bought 10# organic baker potatoes a week ago. Two brown paper bags.
They are still on the hall floor inside the front door.
I'll put a few in my pockets as I go by, when I think of it.

Bags with no handles are next to impossible to manage with one hand.

Apr 5, 2020 - 11:25:49 AM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

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Originally posted by m06
quote:
Originally posted by Texasbanjo

Interesting, but I sincerely doubt anyone would take that long or actually go to that much trouble to put up groceries.

And for those of us who are seniors and live alone and have no one to shop for us, we have no recourse except to go to the store and hope we don't get the virus.


Can you ask neighbours?

I collect groceries for two elderly neighbours and my sister/brother-in-law who live locally and are currently in total self-isolation. People round here are offering and happy to help elderly and less mobile neighbours, and getting the most out of one trip to the store it makes sense to run errands and buy for more than one household. I let them know when I'm next heading out for food, they all email me their shopping list, I put the receipt in the grocery bag when I drop it round and I find I've been paid by those neighbours and family via online banking before I even get home myself.


No, my neighbors are not the type that would do something like that for you.  I could ask my daughter, but she's taking care of her husband who has had major surgery on his arm (yes, it was authorized and necessary), so between work and a convalescent husband, she can't help much.  Besides, she doesn't live in the same town as I do, so it would mean a trip into town and maybe a day off work. 

Apr 5, 2020 - 11:27:27 AM
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Texasbanjo (Moderator)

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quote:
Originally posted by Owen

Working in fishing [as a summer student], construction and farming has provided me with many actual examples of "2 men can [depending on the variables] do 3 or 4 X the work of one man."  So here's a common sense (?) question:  Is it better for my wife and I to shop together and spend 20 [relatively calm] minutes in the store? .... or one of us do the shopping and spend 50 [relatively frustrating] minutes in the store?     

Edit:  My lawn is under 2 feet of snow, and the garden hoses that I neglected to drain last fall are frozen solid.  One of the cables on my garage door recently packed it in [I've got the replacement cable, and am just waiting for some warmer weather so I can do the deed].   My gimpy knees don't want to make any more trips up/down the 5 steps from ground level to the main floor of the house than necessary in order to get my groceries inside.   I wonder what advice the scientists have for me. cheeky   

P.S. Surely there's a song within my list of my "woes."   Maybe more blues than bluegrass... but I'll leave that to somebody else.


Some of our grocery stores have signs saying One person, one cart; in other words, don't bring your spouse and your kids when we're limiting the number of people who can enter the store at one time.  Don't know if you're town has gotten that strict or not.

I have a neighbor with a bum knee and she has one of those little carts with weird looking wheels that will go up and down steps.  Don't know what they're called, but something like that might be of help to you with your knee problem.  

Edited by - Texasbanjo on 04/05/2020 11:30:13

Apr 5, 2020 - 12:12:09 PM

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Apr 5, 2020 - 1:30:15 PM
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Yep, Mike, honestly [surely you've seen enuff of my posts to realize that I only post the straight goods  wink ].  We use a list. We can simultaneously pick up things from the same area of the store. One of us can "go back" [when our list doesn't match the store lay-out], and we can provide each other with "guidance" [on the remote chance that one of us can't find something or other].     Granted, it might not be applicable to your situation .... what's your answer if it's a hypothetical question?

Same kind of question re. passing a vehicle out on a 2-lane highway.  So long as it's done safely , is it better to pull out, maintain the speed limit and take "X" seconds to complete the pass and pull back in?  ... or is it better to speed a bit and spend .50(X) or .75(X) seconds over in the "other" lane?


I’ve been pondering the logistics and can’t figure out how one person is slower? When we shop together my other half claims to spend an inordinate amount of time trying to hunt me down among the aisles when I go off on one of those lone forages. Takes longer for us to link up again than if we’d just gone round together.

So I’m going to have to answer from a social perspective: do whatever way least irritates your wife. smiley

Apr 5, 2020 - 1:58:23 PM
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My shopping method has gone to pot since Corvid-19 has struck. We (my wife and I) would make out the list the day the ads came in the paper, and I'd get as many e-coupons as possible during the day. Come shopping day, I'd go early and, with my list start in the Fresh Fruits & Vegetable aisle, then hit the meat counter (had a standing order, usually was ready for pick-up when I arrived at the counter). then continue up and down the aisles picking up the rest of the list. Always hit the Dairy and Frozen aisles last.

My list is ordered for the store I patronize, so I seldom have to hunt for items, as long as I look for the next 2 or 3 items before tearing off again. I used to be in and out in under an hour with a full week's worth of groceries. Ah, for the good old days!

Apr 5, 2020 - 1:59:15 PM
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Originally posted by m06
quote:
Originally posted by Owen

Yep, Mike, honestly [surely you've seen enuff of my posts to realize that I only post the straight goods  wink ].  We use a list. We can simultaneously pick up things from the same area of the store. One of us can "go back" [when our list doesn't match the store lay-out], and we can provide each other with "guidance" [on the remote chance that one of us can't find something or other].     Granted, it might not be applicable to your situation .... what's your answer if it's a hypothetical question?

Same kind of question re. passing a vehicle out on a 2-lane highway.  So long as it's done safely , is it better to pull out, maintain the speed limit and take "X" seconds to complete the pass and pull back in?  ... or is it better to speed a bit and spend .50(X) or .75(X) seconds over in the "other" lane?


I’ve been pondering the logistics and can’t figure out how one person is slower? When we shop together my other half claims to spend an inordinate amount of time trying to hunt me down among the aisles when I go off on one of those lone forages. Takes longer for us to link up again than if we’d just gone round together.

So I’m going to have to answer from a social perspective: do whatever way least irritates your wife. smiley

 


I consistently get lost in any store....my wife is short and she'll disappear behind a can of dog food...then I cant find her.......we solved the problem with our cell phones...."where are you dear"?...."down at the dairy case"...."stay there I'm on my way.....do not move...."

Edited by - overhere on 04/05/2020 14:01:01

Apr 5, 2020 - 2:11:01 PM

517 posts since 3/9/2013

The video has great points. We have been being atleast that careful. However washing fresh produce with soap is a bad idea. Most things are porous and soap will leach. Soap is not edible.

Apr 5, 2020 - 3:20:01 PM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

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The video has great points. We have been being atleast that careful. However washing fresh produce with soap is a bad idea. Most things are porous and soap will leach. Soap is not edible.


If you'll watch the video again, when that part comes on there's a little window at the top of the video that says don't use soap with fruit and veggies.  Guess they couldn't edit that part out.

Apr 5, 2020 - 3:40:23 PM
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We have community help from our churches and other organizations that want to deliver groceries to anyone that asks.
One time one of my local churches came by when I was unable to get out and brought food,traveled 100 miles to get my truck from the hospital,drove it home and filled it with gas.
I didn't even ask them to do that.

Apr 11, 2020 - 4:16:17 AM

3440 posts since 12/6/2009

Steve with your problems you must be extra careful and glad to see you have great area neighbors. stay safe.

Apr 11, 2020 - 4:44:36 AM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

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Frisco Fred

Well, can I print a retraction? I said I wouldn't go to all the trouble of sanitizing my groceries but.....

Went to the grocery store this week and like a good kid, I wore a mask, took sanitizing wipes for the grocery cart, steering wheel and my hands. After waiting in line for over an hour with about 75 other people, got my groceries and went home.

I did pretty much as the video stated to do: brought in one bag, put it in one place, sanitized what was in it as put it up. Took me nearly an hour to do all that and I was exhausted. Made sure I sanitized the cabinet I put groceries on, and throw away the sacks they were in.

I don't know if it was necessary or not, but I did it.

So, mea culpa. Never say never.

Apr 11, 2020 - 5:01 AM
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