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Apr 4, 2020 - 4:14:33 PM



326 posts since 3/26/2004

i have a tuner on my 27 gibson with 1927 tuners on it one seem to be almost locked up, is there a way to get it to turn its really hard to turn. Would a little lube on it, Im really afraid ill break it thanks any help appreciated

Apr 4, 2020 - 4:25:14 PM

870 posts since 5/19/2018

Bill. In 1927 I can think of a few different tuners that may have been used. Different solutions for each.

Post a picture of the tuner and many here will give you a lot of feedback.

If you also search the archives, there have been a number of threads on exactly this subject and Gibson tuners.

Apr 5, 2020 - 8:36:39 AM

2153 posts since 4/7/2010

Originally posted by Alvin Conder

Post a picture of the tuner and many here will give you a lot of feedback.

Take the tuner off the banjo so we can have a clear look at all angles.


Bob Smakula

Apr 5, 2020 - 1:53:01 PM



326 posts since 3/26/2004

its coming out blurred there were some for sale advertised in banjo parts they sold as 2 hole prewar grover tuner ill keep trying

Apr 5, 2020 - 1:58:08 PM

1232 posts since 7/12/2004

Are these the 2-tab tuners that are held in place by small screws threaded into the headstock?

Apr 5, 2020 - 3:47:35 PM



326 posts since 3/26/2004

yes those are the ones

Apr 5, 2020 - 4:54:13 PM



2759 posts since 2/20/2016

If they are what I think they are, they are possibly the worst tuners Grover ever made. They only have a 2:1 ratio, and are notoriously cantankerous even when they are in good shape.

If it were me, I would remove them, throw them in the case pocket for posterity, and replace them with a set of ABM small shaft tuners from Bob Smakula. The banjo will be a heck of a lot easier to tune. Or you can find an original set of small shaft Planets. They will be 4:1.

If you don't want to do that, you can replace the frozen tuner with an original. They can be often be found for sale in the classifieds.

Edited by - rcc56 on 04/05/2020 16:54:45

Apr 6, 2020 - 12:48:55 PM



326 posts since 3/26/2004

thanks for the advice

Apr 6, 2020 - 2:08:43 PM

2491 posts since 4/16/2003

Agree with Mr. Chuckrow above.
Replace ALL the tuners with modern ones.
Put the old ones in the case.
Best solution all-around.

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