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Mar 31, 2020 - 2:48:12 PM
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mander

USA

4214 posts since 10/7/2007

So, I thought to myself, I have a sewing machine. I have cotton fabric. I can sew cotton masks for those who need/want them. The video shows the lady taking about 13 minutes with everything cut and ready to go. I have to make/cut my own bias tape since it is absurdly expensive to buy it ready to go, so I figure, all and all, I figure, each mask will take me 30 to 45 minutes to do. Yeah, I know I'm slow, but I didn't know how slow until I turned on a radio and a factory somewhere, each sewer is expected to churn them out at one per ten seconds, or six a minute, so 180 to 270 of theirs to one of mine. Makes my effort look pretty wimpy.

Still better than not trying at all, right?

Mar 31, 2020 - 3:08:59 PM
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Don't bother making bias tape.
Use plain old heavy string, cotton cordage, shoe laces.
One of my ever-so-many sisters has a PILE of shoe laces, saved from since her boys were in grade school.
And she makes her masks with a little slit at the edge, to put in a wire bread tie, to form the mask over the person's nose.

Mar 31, 2020 - 4:40:05 PM

Tobus

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If we're to the point of sewing masks at home, wouldn't it be just as effective to tie a banana over one's face and save oneself the trouble?

Mar 31, 2020 - 4:58:33 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Tobus

If we're to the point of sewing masks at home, wouldn't it be just as effective to tie a banana over one's face and save oneself the trouble?


I hear and obey!

 

Mar 31, 2020 - 5:46:18 PM

DRH

USA

395 posts since 5/29/2018

I think Tobin meant to say bandana.

Mar 31, 2020 - 6:08 PM

1517 posts since 11/17/2018

quote:
Originally posted by Tobus

If we're to the point of sewing masks at home, wouldn't it be just as effective to tie a banana over one's face and save oneself the trouble?


From the CDC -

HCP use of homemade masks:
In settings where facemasks are not available, HCP might use homemade masks (e.g., bandana, scarf) for care of patients with COVID-19 as a last resort. However, homemade masks are not considered PPE, since their capability to protect HCP is unknown. Caution should be exercised when considering this option. Homemade masks should ideally be used in combination with a face shield that covers the entire front (that extends to the chin or below) and sides of the face.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/ppe-strategy/face-masks.html

Mar 31, 2020 - 6:47:01 PM
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Chris Meakin

Australia

2899 posts since 5/15/2011

quote:
Originally posted by DRH

I think Tobin meant to say bandana.


I think you're right, but for about 30 seconds I was thinking "how the heck do you get a banana skin to stay on"?!

Edited by - Chris Meakin on 03/31/2020 18:55:13

Mar 31, 2020 - 7:06:38 PM
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Banjo Lefty

Canada

1880 posts since 6/19/2014

Actually, I think a banana peel would likely be more effective at stopping the virus than a thin cotton mask. Breathing might be a problem, though.

Apr 1, 2020 - 2:51:19 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by DRH

I think Tobin meant to say bandana.


I am certain that he did.

It was just a funny mental image, so I looked for a picture online.

Many's a time I have posted
"Let us grab our banjos and SING!"

Once, I forgot the G, and seemed to be inviting the membership to grab our banjos and SIN!

It brought to my attention by several fun comments.  It's all in good fun.

Apr 1, 2020 - 3:02 AM
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OM45GE

USA

96372 posts since 11/7/2007

I’m thinking “one every 10 seconds” is just sewing the components together and that others did all the cutting and layout work.

Apr 1, 2020 - 5:45:30 AM
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mander

USA

4214 posts since 10/7/2007

quote:
Originally posted by mike gregory

Don't bother making bias tape.
Use plain old heavy string, cotton cordage, shoe laces.
One of my ever-so-many sisters has a PILE of shoe laces, saved from since her boys were in grade school.
And she makes her masks with a little slit at the edge, to put in a wire bread tie, to form the mask over the person's nose.


I don't have heavy string, cordage or spare shoelaces. I have lots of fabric. Since I gave up gluten, I don't have any bread ties not being used elsewhere. I'm planning on getting pipe cleaners and using those.

I'm making them first as back up for my son and daughter in law, both are in the medical field. The rest I'm going to give to family and friends.

Apr 1, 2020 - 5:48:39 AM

mander

USA

4214 posts since 10/7/2007

quote:
Originally posted by OM45GE

I’m thinking “one every 10 seconds” is just sewing the components together and that others did all the cutting and layout work.


Yeah, I know, but factories cut the fabric many layers deep. They still out distant me. Slow and steady. I'll get there. My sister is a professional sewer and last year she donated boxes of fabric to me so I could make baby quilts. Haven't gotten to the quilting so, these are going to be very fashionable masks. Hopefully someone will be happy with them.

Apr 1, 2020 - 6:11:18 AM
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OM45GE

USA

96372 posts since 11/7/2007

I would still be fiddling with the fabric and getting the foot set after ten seconds.

I used to work at a furniture manufacturer. We did some upholstered furniture and the seamstresses were blazingly fast. They had industrial machines that sounded like angry hornets and seemed to move the fabric at 100 mph.

As I recall, the cutters could cut a stack of fabric over a foot thick.

Apr 1, 2020 - 8:24:49 AM

Owen

Canada

5528 posts since 6/5/2011

quote:
Originally posted by Banjo Lefty

Actually, I think a banana peel would likely be more effective at stopping the virus than a thin cotton mask. Breathing might be a problem, though.


FWIW, an "expert" (??) on CBC radio this a.m. said that t-shirt material [no further detail was given] was about 30% as effective as surgical masks.    I wasn't paying close enough attention to know whether that was conjecture, or was arrived at through actual testing, or ???.

Apr 1, 2020 - 8:39:22 AM

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"30% as effective" at preventing a dread disease is better than NOTHING, but that's about one chance in three, where as with Russian Roulette, one bullet in a revolver, the risk is one chance in SIX.

The GOOD news is, not everybody who gets the Covid-19, dies.
The BAD news is, if somebody who dies is somebody you know and like, that's the worst news there is.

Apr 1, 2020 - 8:51:09 AM
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Tobus

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Ugh, yes, I typed bandana. My stupid phone auto-corrected it. Sorry 'bout that.

At any rate, my point was that people are making these DIY masks which aren't offering any more protection than a simple bandana. Sewing regular fabric into a special shape doesn't do anything except make it look like a surgical mask. And to be honest, most people I see wearing surgical masks have huge gaps at the sides because they don't hug the face properly.

But a bandana, folded in half by the corners, offers two layers of fabric. And when properly placed just under the eyes, with the bottom point stuffed into one's shirt, shouldn't have any open gaps. A thin bendable metal strip can be used inside the folded top to shape it to the bridge of one's nose if necessary. And if worn with something like clear safety glasses, it should offer a lot of protection for being out in public (since we're not face to face with sick patients to draw blood or intubate them or anything). At least as much as a homemade surgical mask, I would think.

Apr 1, 2020 - 10:05:59 AM

Owen

Canada

5528 posts since 6/5/2011

CBC radio just interviewed another woman. This one is making masks in response to a request from a hospital. The hospital provides the specifications .... apparently the masks, while not suitable for intensive medical procedures, would be adequate for hospital visitors, and for patients being discharged.    The lady mentioned that the masks have an outer layer of regular (?) polyester and an inner layer of 100% cotton.  Supposedly it's an "easy step-by-step, 17 step process."   [But I guess that's open to interpretation... I've heard lots of people say that learning such-and-such re. making music on a banjo is "easy".... and I can tell you unequivocally that either they don't know, or they're  lying.]

Apr 1, 2020 - 1:52:04 PM
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Owen

Canada

5528 posts since 6/5/2011

Apr 2, 2020 - 2:49:10 PM

71683 posts since 5/9/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Tobus

If we're to the point of sewing masks at home, wouldn't it be just as effective to tie a banana over one's face and save oneself the trouble?


As far as making your own "Victory Mask",a mask of any material is able to capture the otherwise launched personal secretion.Valid barrier and a great way for people to say "Thanks for trying."

Maybe the "banana" line would be funnier spoken with a lamp shade on your head.

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