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Mar 29, 2020 - 7:33:30 AM
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1399 posts since 7/14/2004

Take a look at this assemblage of natures oddities. Not for the overly squeamish.

I would add the Pangolin to this list. The Pangolin has been in the news lately as they may carry corona virus.

https://bestlifeonline.com/weird-animals/

Pangolin. They look  like a cross between a crayfish and and artichoke.

Edited by - Sheenjack on 03/29/2020 07:45:22

Mar 29, 2020 - 8:40:13 AM

bubbalouie

Canada

13745 posts since 9/27/2007

I think that's the guy that started this virus! Looks like good eatin' Eh?!

Kangaroo on the half shell!

Mar 29, 2020 - 9:14:14 AM

RonR

USA

1632 posts since 11/29/2012

I read it was the guy from Harvard.

Mar 29, 2020 - 9:40:32 AM

54478 posts since 12/14/2005

Fun to read.
Thanks for putting it where I could find it.

Mar 29, 2020 - 12:16:13 PM

figmo59

USA

31004 posts since 3/5/2008

Neet..

Mar 29, 2020 - 1:00:50 PM
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m06

England

8751 posts since 10/5/2006

I think us humans easily top the list as the oddest oddballs.

No other species so efficiently depletes their own habitat, nor has the linguistic means to twist that depletion and communicate it to each other as ‘progress’.

That’s extremely odd to the point of total dysfunction as a species.

Edited by - m06 on 03/29/2020 13:03:22

Mar 29, 2020 - 2:19:05 PM
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Chris Meakin

Australia

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Pangolin are (sadly) the most trafficked mammal on the planet.

Number 7 in the original link is a Thorny Devil (not Dragon). Quite harmless, unless you're an ant.

https://www.bushheritage.org.au/species/thorny-devils

Mar 29, 2020 - 7:25:56 PM

mander

USA

4214 posts since 10/7/2007

My brother in law (who is White,) has long claimed White people are freaks of nature. Our skin wasn't made to take the natural elements.

Mar 29, 2020 - 9:20:18 PM
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Chris Meakin

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quote:
Originally posted by mander

My brother in law (who is White,) has long claimed White people are freaks of nature. Our skin wasn't made to take the natural elements.


Just a response to large-scale migration northwards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_skin

Mar 29, 2020 - 9:50:54 PM

chuckv97

Canada

49134 posts since 10/5/2013

Eskimos (Inuit) are darker than us white folks

Mar 29, 2020 - 10:15:22 PM
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Chris Meakin

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quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

Eskimos (Inuit) are darker than us white folks


Believed to have only migrated fairly recently (1-2 thousand years?) and originally probably from Asia? whereas our European ancestors migrated to higher latitudes 65,000-125,000 years ago.

Edited by - Chris Meakin on 03/29/2020 22:16:32

Mar 30, 2020 - 5:54:04 AM
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Tobus

USA

2177 posts since 11/17/2015

quote:
Originally posted by m06

I think us humans easily top the list as the oddest oddballs.

No other species so efficiently depletes their own habitat, nor has the linguistic means to twist that depletion and communicate it to each other as ‘progress’.

That’s extremely odd to the point of total dysfunction as a species.


Mmm, I would disagree.  There are several species who excel at rapidly depleting their own habitat of resources.  Locusts, for one.  Humans do an excellent locust impersonation.  And viruses as well.  Many of the world's deadliest historical viruses spread so fast and killed so many people that they depleted their supply of viable hosts, then died out.  Humans act a lot like a virus in our behavior as a species. 

And to be quite honest, all species would have this same problem if it weren't for the balance of nature that tends to keep them all in check.  Humans have found ways to upset the balance of nature and let our numbers get out of control, but it remains to be seen whether that will really work in the long run.  Nature is pretty good at reminding us who's really in charge.

Mar 30, 2020 - 7:46:13 AM

mander

USA

4214 posts since 10/7/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Tobus
quote:
Originally posted by m06

I think us humans easily top the list as the oddest oddballs.

No other species so efficiently depletes their own habitat, nor has the linguistic means to twist that depletion and communicate it to each other as ‘progress’.

That’s extremely odd to the point of total dysfunction as a species.


Mmm, I would disagree.  There are several species who excel at rapidly depleting their own habitat of resources.  Locusts, for one.  Humans do an excellent locust impersonation.  And viruses as well.  Many of the world's deadliest historical viruses spread so fast and killed so many people that they depleted their supply of viable hosts, then died out.  Humans act a lot like a virus in our behavior as a species. 

And to be quite honest, all species would have this same problem if it weren't for the balance of nature that tends to keep them all in check.  Humans have found ways to upset the balance of nature and let our numbers get out of control, but it remains to be seen whether that will really work in the long run.  Nature is pretty good at reminding us who's really in charge.


Locust are really fascinating. They are grasshoppers on steroids reacting to overpopulation. I am not a fan of the plow, but the one positive is it breaks up the "seven year" cycle. 

Mar 30, 2020 - 9:49:29 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

Eskimos (Inuit) are darker than us white folks


It would seem logical that people living at high Northern latitudes would have darker skin with  24 hrs of intense daylight for 6 months of the year.  During the summer months I will sun burn with 2 hrs of sun exposure at my location in south central Alaska.

Mar 30, 2020 - 9:54:26 AM

1399 posts since 7/14/2004

quote:
Originally posted by mander
quote:
Originally posted by Tobus
quote:
Originally posted by m06

 


 


Locust are really fascinating. They are grasshoppers on steroids reacting to overpopulation. I am not a fan of the plow, but the one positive is it breaks up the "seven year" cycle. 


Do you mean cicadas? They start their life cycle underground.

Mar 30, 2020 - 12:42:43 PM

Mooooo

USA

7816 posts since 8/20/2016

quote:
Originally posted by Sheenjack

Take a look at this assemblage of natures oddities. Not for the overly squeamish.

I would add the Pangolin to this list. The Pangolin has been in the news lately as they may carry corona virus.

https://bestlifeonline.com/weird-animals/

Pangolin. They look  like a cross between a crayfish and and artichoke.

 


I bet people start killing Pangolins necessarily, in fear that they "may" carry the corona virus, which would be too bad, but not surprising.

Mar 30, 2020 - 1:31:07 PM

1399 posts since 7/14/2004

You are right MOOOOO. Their is an article in Nature which says the same.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00548-w

Mar 30, 2020 - 1:36:10 PM

Mooooo

USA

7816 posts since 8/20/2016

That's a shame

Mar 30, 2020 - 1:37:06 PM

3440 posts since 12/6/2009

quote:
Originally posted by mander

My brother in law (who is White,) has long claimed White people are freaks of nature. Our skin wasn't made to take the natural elements.


Evolution my dear mander. Don’t need shade no sun. Lots of sun lots of dark pigment. I get browner in the summer and whiter in the winter.

Mar 30, 2020 - 2:05:52 PM

Owen

Canada

5540 posts since 6/5/2011

Off onto a tangent, but nevertheless a true tale about odd balls ...in more ways than one.  On one of the remote reserves on which I taught, I overheard two grade 3 boys "discussing" one of the men in town.  They said that the guy had three balls [i.e. "odd" #] and that that gave him  great strength.   They were talking with each other  so I never let on that I had overheard them.   I later asked a TA and she Immediately offered [re. the two boys]: "That was _____   and ______ , wasn't it?"   Apparently the two were a bit "different" [I'm not sayin' odd]  and were known for having active imaginations.

Mar 30, 2020 - 2:22:15 PM

nakigreengrass

New Zealand

4954 posts since 5/16/2012

Human skin color is dependent on vitamin D requirements. The further away from the equator you get the whiter your skin color needs to be, because enabling uv absorption. Some very Northern peoples like the Inuit, get more than enough Vitamin D from their diets, and the cold climate means they are not exposed to much UV at any rate.... so in the few thousands years since arriving in Northern areas have not adapted white skin.

Mar 30, 2020 - 2:35:48 PM

nakigreengrass

New Zealand

4954 posts since 5/16/2012

quote:
Originally posted by m06

I think us humans easily top the list as the oddest oddballs.

No other species so efficiently depletes their own habitat, nor has the linguistic means to twist that depletion and communicate it to each other as ‘progress’.

That’s extremely odd to the point of total dysfunction as a species.


Humans are unique in biological evolution ( yes oddball ) because we are able to exploit entropy.    It is that " depletion " that has allowed our species to be able to multiple it's numbers 7 fold in 150 years....which means the human biological mass has been very successful in evolutionary terms.....In evolutionary terms we are an extremely " functionable "  species.

Mar 30, 2020 - 2:52:10 PM

1399 posts since 7/14/2004

quote:
Originally posted by nakigreengrass

Human skin color is dependent on vitamin D requirements. The further away from the equator you get the whiter your skin color needs to be, because enabling uv absorption. Some very Northern peoples like the Inuit, get more than enough Vitamin D from their diets, and the cold climate means they are not exposed to much UV at any rate.... so in the few thousands years since arriving in Northern areas have not adapted white skin.


A time line question; I have visited archaeological sites in the Western Aleutians that date back 9 to 10 thousand years. Humans migrated over the land bridge to North America after the last Ice Age about 10 thousand years ago.

Mar 31, 2020 - 3:38:05 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Owen

Off onto a tangent, but nevertheless a true tale about odd balls ...in more ways than one.  On one of the remote reserves on which I taught, I overheard two grade 3 boys "discussing" one of the men in town.  They said that the guy had three balls [i.e. "odd" #] and that that gave him  great strength.   They were talking with each other  so I never let on that I had overheard them.   I later asked a TA and she Immediately offered [re. the two boys]: "That was _____   and ______ , wasn't it?"   Apparently the two were a bit "different" [I'm not sayin' odd]  and were known for having active imaginations.


"great strength"...ha....I knew a baseball player who had 4 balls and had to walk to first base 'cause he couldn't even run.........

it aint how many its how big

Edited by - overhere on 03/31/2020 03:38:53

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