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Mar 28, 2020 - 6:27:46 PM
72 posts since 11/2/2009

I'm in Florida and everything is shut down in my County, and I'm feeling a little chatty. I live alone, and the only bad part about that is that there is no one to fight with.
So with my time I am going back and trying to learn things properly.
While embarrassing to admit, I have probably 25 or more hours in this past week on the Sally Goodin lick. My brain got overloaded, and wandered, and I would go and work on some other things, and then come back to it. Its a very "clean" and straightforward version from Sean Ray.
For the first 20 hours, I couldn't even make it sound like the lick. Sad, I know. Its just a darn old beginner lick.
I isolated the lick and put it in a program that lets me slow it down.
I tapped my foot. I even broke down and resorted to the metronome!
Then, on the tab, I marked each note that was accented - the ones that give the lick its sound and feel, and saw that the accents were all on the 1, 2, 3, 4, with a little shuffle feel (is that the right term?).

Out loud, I sang: ba-da, [BA-da, BA-da, BA-da, BA-da], [BA-da, BA-da, BA-da, ba-da], [BA-da, BA-da, BA-da, BA-da], [BA-da, BA-da, BA-da, ba-da] etc.
This information helped, and I got it sounding right, and gradually I have been able to get it more repeatable, but with no speed whatsoever. It sounds like a funeral dirge. If I repeat the lick correctly twice in a row, I feel like I am hanging on for dear life, and the third time through is invariably a "fail". I assume this is all "good" for me, because it is making me do something that I am not comfortable with.

I have been trying to figure out why this has been, and remains, so daunting, not that I have any actual musical talent. All I have come up with is (1) that the emphasized notes are plucked with fingers that aren't accustomed to being the fingers that pluck the emphasized notes, or (2) the first two notes of the lick kinda start on the 4 and 4& of the previous measure.

I know this is a pretty simple lick. 

So YOU - any licks that have been particularly daunting, although part of the basic beginner banjo vocabulary?

Mar 29, 2020 - 6:45:51 AM

183 posts since 6/19/2017

Are you referring to the main down the neck segment of Earl's version of this tune from Foggy Mountain Banjo? If so, I too had trouble learning this lick. It is a tricky one!

Mar 29, 2020 - 7:38:57 AM

3395 posts since 3/28/2008

Yeah, gcpicken, please clarify exactly which lick you're talking about. If it's that one up at the 8th and 9th frets (with the occasional pinky activity at 11 and 10), well, that's NOT a "pretty simple lick" or a "darn old beginner lick".

How would you rate your general skill level? Knowing that will help with further discussions about this.

Mar 29, 2020 - 11:35:15 AM

72 posts since 11/2/2009

It the up the neck version, as you say, at 8th and 9th frets with the pinky thrown in. It’s actually going well today. Progress.

As to my general skill level, it is low.

Mar 29, 2020 - 6:34:54 PM
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72 posts since 11/2/2009

Next time, I’m going to put in the program first, slow it down, and let it repeat and repeat. Really try to ‘hear’ it and internalize it. If my brain isn’t really hearing it correctly, my brain fight with me when I try to imitate the lick.

Mar 29, 2020 - 7:29:54 PM

6574 posts since 8/30/2004

Hi Gc,
Go to the tab library and you'll find my transcription of the song and the lick to which you are referring. Basically, hold down an A min position starting at the 8th fret with the index and the 9th fret at the 10th with the middle finger and then let your pinkly go from the 11th fret 2nd string and bend it to the 12th fret note. Try to keep your index and middle fingers in place if possible. Good Luck...Jack   p.s. look at the tab very slowly and you'll get it...
Sally Goodwin

Originally posted by gcpicken

 

Edited by - Jack Baker on 03/29/2020 19:33:12

Mar 29, 2020 - 8:01:25 PM
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6574 posts since 8/30/2004

quote:
Originally posted by Jack Baker
Hi Gc,
Go to the tab library and you'll find my transcription of the song and the lick to which you are referring. Basically, hold down an A min position starting at the 8th fret with the index and the 9th fret with the middle finger and the 1st string at the 9th with your ring finger then let your pinkly go from the 11th fret 2nd string and bend it to the 12th fret note. Try to keep your index and middle fingers in place if possible. Good Luck...Jack   p.s. look at the tab very slowly and you'll get it...
Sally Goodwin

Originally posted by gcpicken

 


Edited by - Jack Baker on 03/29/2020 20:04:16

Mar 30, 2020 - 5:41:19 PM

72 posts since 11/2/2009

Hi Jack - Thank you. I couldn't get that to open in Tef (in either the old or new version) or Guitar Pros, but I assume it is the standard up the neck tab, and I do have that, and with patience, I have got it pretty well down. Thank you for you time in posting that.

Mar 30, 2020 - 6:07:14 PM

6574 posts since 8/30/2004

It opens just fine. Do you have the Tabledit program?...Jack

Mar 30, 2020 - 9:31:02 PM

72 posts since 11/2/2009

Hi Jack me, I get a message that tells me I need a newer version of the program. So I am working on that with the Tabledit people. I have my username and password, but there is apparently something they need to do on their end. But thank you very much. I am all good. I have the tab, and I've looked at it other tabs, and Sean Ray's is dead on.

Mar 31, 2020 - 8:34:28 AM
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7 posts since 1/13/2005

I'm in Okaloosa County in Florida and if you live near me I can show you any licks on that song. Banjobob36


Mar 31, 2020 - 9:29:16 AM

72 posts since 11/2/2009

Thanks, that’d be a haul from Palm Beach County!

Mar 31, 2020 - 9:38:30 AM

6574 posts since 8/30/2004

GC,
Just go to your "tabledit users page" and download the 3.0 version. It's pretty simple....J
Originally posted by gcpicken

Hi Jack me, I get a message that tells me I need a newer version of the program. So I am working on that with the Tabledit people. I have my username and password, but there is apparently something they need to do on their end. But thank you very much. I am all good. I have the tab, and I've looked at it other tabs, and Sean Ray's is dead on.


Mar 31, 2020 - 1:53:19 PM

2598 posts since 4/19/2008

quote:
Originally posted by Jack Baker
GC,
Just go to your "tabledit users page" and download the 3.0 version. It's pretty simple....J
There is no 2.9 or 3.0 for Macs

 


Mar 31, 2020 - 2:03:49 PM

6574 posts since 8/30/2004

I did not know that Rick. What is it called for Macs? This link must be incorrect then...I guess I can't tell since I'm on Windows...

http://www.tabledit.com/secured/mac_e.shtml

Edited by - Jack Baker on 03/31/2020 14:18:52

Mar 31, 2020 - 2:31:34 PM

6574 posts since 8/30/2004

Maybe this general Tabledit link will help gc

tabledit.com/download/index.shtml

Mar 31, 2020 - 2:40:23 PM

2598 posts since 4/19/2008

Jack yesterday I also tied to open your tab and it said I needed 2.79 so I tried to update and it said I was up to date. I went to the secure site and there was no 2.79 or 3.0 listed for macs but I just checked again and 3.0 is there. I downloaded 3.0 and opened your tab with no problems so it was a backward compatible issue.


Mar 31, 2020 - 2:59:59 PM

6574 posts since 8/30/2004

Thanks for checking Rick...Jack how are you doing in this horrible mess we're all having?....

Edited by - Jack Baker on 03/31/2020 15:00:20

Mar 31, 2020 - 3:00:31 PM

72 posts since 11/2/2009

quote:
Originally posted by Jack Baker

Maybe this general Tabledit link will help gc

tabledit.com/download/index.shtml


Hi Jack - Here is what shows up on that link: 

Components  Download
TablEdit for Windows (more info)
- v2.78 - from Windows 95 up to Windows 10

 

I was getting the same issue as Mike, I went through the company and they gave me a secure link which did have a 3.0 for windows on it, which I loaded and ran with your tab and it worked. But if I just go and click on another Tabledit file, it opens everything in Demo mode, and then it tells you there is a newer version, but makes it a royal PITA. You need not only your username and password, but the link from your original email when you bought the program. 

Anyway, we are all good. No good deed goes unpunished and no animals were injured in the process.

Edited by - gcpicken on 03/31/2020 15:02:16

Mar 31, 2020 - 3:15:42 PM

6574 posts since 8/30/2004

Ok I understand. If you bought the full version for just over 65.00, you'd do much better I think...Jack

Edited by - Jack Baker on 03/31/2020 15:16:34

Mar 31, 2020 - 7:24:23 PM

72 posts since 11/2/2009

I said “Mike”, I meant “Rick”. Jack I did buy the full version well over a year ago, that’s why I have a user name and password, as I have said here, several times. You did a nice job on that tab, by the way.

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