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Glue for plastic bindings - other than Duco - E6000?

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Feb 24, 2020 - 6:25:56 AM
2427 posts since 6/19/2008

I have some plastic binding I need to glue on. Other than Duco, is there another glue that you use?

Duco doesn't seem to be available locally, and I don't want to order it because of the delay in shipping.

I have done the thing of dissolving binding bits in acetone, but it's a hassle. So I'm looking for something already prepared.

E6000 seems to be something that would work - Does anyone have experience with that?

Feb 24, 2020 - 6:53:02 AM
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rudy

USA

14988 posts since 3/27/2004

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Originally posted by Jonnycake White

I have some plastic binding I need to glue on. Other than Duco, is there another glue that you use?

Duco doesn't seem to be available locally, and I don't want to order it because of the delay in shipping.

I have done the thing of dissolving binding bits in acetone, but it's a hassle. So I'm looking for something already prepared.

E6000 seems to be something that would work - Does anyone have experience with that?


I have read on some of the guitar building forums that some builders tape binding in place and hit the joint with water weight CA and allow it to wick into the joint.

I don't use synthetic binding so no personal experiance.

Feb 24, 2020 - 7:09:16 AM

2011 posts since 2/7/2008

I have used the FCA binding glue from Luthiers Mercantile with good success. As their description says, it has fast tack and sets up quickly.

I did a resonator with plastic binding and wood purfling and it's held up well so far.

Feb 24, 2020 - 8:13:47 AM

2427 posts since 6/19/2008

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Originally posted by Quickstep192

I have used the FCA binding glue from Luthiers Mercantile with good success. As their description says, it has fast tack and sets up quickly.

I did a resonator with plastic binding and wood purfling and it's held up well so far.


I can order whatever online, but again, I'm hoping for something I can pick up locally so I can get this binding glued on today.

Feb 24, 2020 - 8:21:52 AM
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10532 posts since 6/2/2008

Gel-type super glue should work.  It typically has a slightly longer set-up time.  I like the brush-on kind from Stew-Mac, but you don't want to order.

Seems to me any hardware store will have a Duco-style glue.  That is, a different brand of essentially the same thing.  Weld-On 16 is one such that I've used.   I'd think that various brands of model cement should be a version of the same thing.  But they're expensive for the quantity.

Feb 24, 2020 - 9:53:18 AM
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2011 posts since 2/7/2008

I've used the clear gorilla glue on glass to wood and it worked well. It's a different formulation than regular gorilla glue. It's dead clear and there's no foaming. My sense is it would work for plastic to wood also. It's available at the big box stores.

gorillatough.com/product/clear...lla-glue/

Feb 24, 2020 - 12:31:40 PM
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12723 posts since 6/29/2005

CA works fine.

Feb 24, 2020 - 1:29:11 PM

1502 posts since 12/22/2006

Go to a local auto parts store, get a small tube of the 3M Trim adhesive,
It works good.

Feb 24, 2020 - 2:02:15 PM
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Helix

USA

12362 posts since 8/30/2006

Shop temperature and naphtha cleaning beforehand.

I keep Duco around, but I only use my own hardwood binding these days. The duco is fine. I also buy jeweler's glue from Ace.

The Duco and others have acetone as the solvent.

I prefer to stay away from letting CA into the environment, it's hard to get out. I do have it in my shop, but I think it over first.
Slower setting CA is better. "wicking" is the word that bothers me. I mask my fingerboards and necks prior to installing binding.

Jeweler's glue and Duco clean up real nice with scraping. Superglue doesn't, it's harder than epoxy. 3M trim adhesive will have a telltale odor of solvent, whether acetone or other.

Another thought, I sand and clean the back surface of all bindings whether plastic or wood.  Finger oils muck things up.  Pure acetone can bleach. 

Edited by - Helix on 02/24/2020 14:03:49

Feb 24, 2020 - 8:09:43 PM
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14964 posts since 2/7/2003

I use and have used super glue Gel fo over 20 years, since talking with Bill Sullivan about it.
It works on all the plastics and doesnt run like superglue

Scott

Feb 24, 2020 - 8:44:31 PM
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Helix

USA

12362 posts since 8/30/2006

What brand, Scott?

How slow for setup and wicking??

Be more specific

I’ve used fast and slow CA for over 20 years, too, but that doesn’t grant me authority

Do you use it for binding as the op asked?

Edited by - Helix on 02/24/2020 20:45:42

Feb 24, 2020 - 10:32:14 PM
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14964 posts since 2/7/2003

Brand isnt a determining factor, Stew mac sells stuff that works great, of course or any other major brand OF COURSE, as Tony Pass told you long time ago people dont suffer fools lightly

Larry pull your head out and join the conversation, stop showing your ignorance by trying to be the opposite, nobody is fooled

Scott

Feb 25, 2020 - 2:22:24 AM
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Helix

USA

12362 posts since 8/30/2006

Scott, we want to talk about banjos, ok? Capitalizing, as always is yelling. Tony Pass and I had many conversations. He mentioned other people had been out of the country too long.

Jon, if you use superglue gel, I strongly suggest you use a test strip first. As I mentioned, it's winter, and temperature and humidity and lighter fluid cleanliness are contributing factors. I found I got a much cleaner install by sanding the back side of plastic binding first.
Hope this helps. I'm also using up the last of the flammable stock.


 

Feb 25, 2020 - 6:39 AM

71277 posts since 5/9/2007

I bought a tube of StewMac's "Bind All".
Now I'm looking for old stock celluloid binding.

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