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Feb 21, 2020 - 3:50:28 PM
12 posts since 2/20/2020

Dowel reads : J.E. DALLAS MAKER. 415 STRAND WC
MUCH INGRAVING ON POT
AND HEEL
CAME WITH STRANGE CONCAVE RESONATOR THAT LOOKS ODD AND PLAIN JANE ARMREST ATTACHED

Feb 21, 2020 - 4:12:14 PM
likes this

181 posts since 2/11/2009

Mazel tov!





Or did you want to know something about it?

Feb 22, 2020 - 12:47:25 AM

1317 posts since 4/25/2007

Best post some photos.

Feb 22, 2020 - 11:08:44 AM

12 posts since 2/20/2020

Guessing built between 1895 and 1905. Does that sound about right ?
Concave birdseye maple ? Doesn't seem original. I've never seen one concave like this one. Any ideas ?

Feb 22, 2020 - 11:12:20 AM

12 posts since 2/20/2020

Haven't the foggiest on how to post pics. Sorry. Thought the serial # would help. Just acquired the banjo 2 days ago.

Feb 22, 2020 - 11:28:45 AM

12 posts since 2/20/2020

First attempt at sending photos




 

Feb 22, 2020 - 11:40:13 AM

12 posts since 2/20/2020

Dallas 6498 more pics


Feb 22, 2020 - 2:26:01 PM

66 posts since 5/25/2015

I recently bought #6883 which has the later Holborn address, dating it after 1914. It has the same tailpiece design so I'm thinking these might not be too far apart in dates. No engraving on mine though. That's a nice feature.

Feb 23, 2020 - 1:18:17 AM

1317 posts since 4/25/2007

Super nice fancy Dallas banjo. Given the high serial I would think nearer 1914 or made and in stock before the move. I think your tension nuts are fitted the wrong way round. These were and still are being advertised, by dealers, for quite high prices. ie £1750 - £1835 !!!
I would be interested in what they are actually selling for.

Feb 23, 2020 - 5:16:10 AM

John Firth-Smith

Australia

76 posts since 3/13/2010

Identical pearl inlay design and peg head shape as my Lyon & Healy - WASHBURN

Feb 23, 2020 - 6:49:19 AM

1317 posts since 4/25/2007

quote:
Originally posted by John Firth-Smith

Identical pearl inlay design and peg head shape as my Lyon & Healy - WASHBURN


Yes they did a pretty good knock off from the Washburn design. Later into the Jedson brand era they also knocked off Slingerland and Lange's Paramount design. 

Feb 23, 2020 - 6:56:51 AM

John Firth-Smith

Australia

76 posts since 3/13/2010

The unique thing about my Washburn it has those rather complicated but beautiful Imperial hooks and nuts

Feb 23, 2020 - 6:59:59 AM

John Firth-Smith

Australia

76 posts since 3/13/2010

quote:
Originally posted by Stephen John Prior
quote:
Originally posted by John Firth-Smith

Identical pearl inlay design and peg head shape as my Lyon & Healy - WASHBURN


Yes they did a pretty good knock off from the Washburn design. Later into the Jedson brand era they also knocked off Slingerland and Lange's Paramount design. 


you wonder why they would copy so closely - are you sure the necks were not imported from the US

Feb 23, 2020 - 7:50:24 AM

12 posts since 2/20/2020

I got this one for$300. I've had other banjos with the nuts put on the same way. Go figure! Do you know if. Dallas & Son's was put on the dowel stick after 1905 ?

Feb 23, 2020 - 8:26:36 AM

66 posts since 5/25/2015

quote:Originally posted by Tom HarleyI got this one for$300. I've had other banjos with the nuts put on the same way. Go figure! Do you know if. Dallas & Son's was put on the dowel stick after 1905 ?

 

Mine still just says JB Dallas. It might have changed soon afterwards.


Edited by - gentrixuk on 02/23/2020 08:27:03

Feb 23, 2020 - 8:40:07 AM

1317 posts since 4/25/2007

quote:
Originally posted by John Firth-Smith
quote:
Originally posted by Stephen John Prior
quote:
Originally posted by John Firth-Smith

Identical pearl inlay design and peg head shape as my Lyon & Healy - WASHBURN


Yes they did a pretty good knock off from the Washburn design. Later into the Jedson brand era they also knocked off Slingerland and Lange's Paramount design. 


you wonder why they would copy so closely - are you sure the necks were not imported from the US


Having owned both and compared them side by side yes I'm certain. 

Feb 23, 2020 - 9:09:03 AM

1317 posts since 4/25/2007

quote:
Originally posted by John Firth-Smith

The unique thing about my Washburn it has those rather complicated but beautiful Imperial hooks and nuts


That sounds really interesting John could you post some photos please.

Feb 23, 2020 - 9:21:31 AM

1317 posts since 4/25/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Tom Harley

I got this one for$300. I've had other banjos with the nuts put on the same way. Go figure! Do you know if. Dallas & Son's was put on the dowel stick after 1905 ?


Even in todays market that's a very fair price. I think the nut design mirrored the unusual tension hoop design. Things get changed over the years. When Mark acquired his the tension hoop was fitted upside down which is also a pretty standard mistake. I've handled a lot of banjos built by Dallas and all, so far, have been stamped J E Dallas. 1905 was when the sons were made directors but even into the High Holborn days they were still stamped J E Dallas.

Feb 23, 2020 - 9:50:13 AM

12 posts since 2/20/2020

As much as I like looking at this Dallas I think I'm going to try to trade it for a nice tenor
I don't seem to have the dexterity for the 5 string.

Feb 23, 2020 - 10:08:22 AM

1317 posts since 4/25/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Tom Harley

Dowel reads : J.E. DALLAS MAKER. 415 STRAND WC
MUCH INGRAVING ON POT
AND HEEL
CAME WITH STRANGE CONCAVE RESONATOR THAT LOOKS ODD AND PLAIN JANE ARMREST ATTACHED


I'd be interested in seeing the Resonator and Armrest.

Feb 23, 2020 - 10:11:52 AM

1317 posts since 4/25/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Tom Harley

As much as I like looking at this Dallas I think I'm going to try to trade it for a nice tenor
I don't seem to have the dexterity for the 5 string.


I doubt you will have any trouble getting your money back. Check out the one on John Crofts The Ukulele Mans site.

Feb 23, 2020 - 2:33:52 PM

12 posts since 2/20/2020

Here are some pics of the resonator and other hardware from the Dallas 6498

Feb 23, 2020 - 2:37:40 PM

12 posts since 2/20/2020

Dallas 6498 hardware

Feb 23, 2020 - 2:41:21 PM

12 posts since 2/20/2020

Trying again Dallas 6498






Feb 23, 2020 - 2:44:38 PM

12 posts since 2/20/2020

One .more of the resonator. Dallas 6498


 

Feb 23, 2020 - 4:14:39 PM

John Firth-Smith

Australia

76 posts since 3/13/2010

quote
Originally posted by Stephen John Prior
quote:
Originally posted by John Firth-Smith

The unique thing about my Washburn it has those rather complicated but beautiful Imperial hooks and nuts


That sounds really interesting John could you post some photos please.


Yes I will I also happen to have both a Washburn and Dallas with same Mays inlay - they are not readily available to photograph at the moment but will post when I can

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