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Feb 15, 2020 - 4:18:41 AM
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30439 posts since 3/5/2008

Group think....?

Feb 15, 2020 - 4:25:31 AM
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295 posts since 2/26/2012

Fall in love with banjo
Fall in love with dogs

Feb 15, 2020 - 6:08:11 AM
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DC5

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Not sure, let me take a poll.

Feb 15, 2020 - 7:09:15 AM
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1289 posts since 4/22/2018

I’m with whatever Dave’s poll says

Feb 15, 2020 - 7:30:18 AM
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I've probably spent too much time alone on the water.

Feb 15, 2020 - 9:59:38 AM

oly

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1411 posts since 5/27/2006

Depends on the group I'm in, they're either the greatest or a bunch of idiots. Most of the time they're the greatest.

Feb 15, 2020 - 10:13:27 AM

Owen

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quote:
Originally posted by DC5

Not sure, let me take a poll.


..or as John Diefenbaker  put it: "Polls [poles??] are for dogs."

Feb 15, 2020 - 10:14:31 AM
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chuckv97

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quote:
Originally posted by DC5

Not sure, let me take a poll.


Not sure, let me take a pill.

Feb 15, 2020 - 11:18:56 AM

9509 posts since 1/15/2005

Most of those who claimed to be free thinkers are ....... but not me!wink

Feb 15, 2020 - 11:29:35 AM

Mooooo

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You're on to something here Fig. To some degree we all are. I think the internet has magnified lameness of it all.

Edited by - Mooooo on 02/15/2020 11:30:09

Feb 15, 2020 - 12:27:46 PM

roxygrl

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9543 posts since 10/11/2010

no.

Feb 15, 2020 - 12:48:33 PM
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m06

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Group think is a pernicious and self-destructive consequence of insular cliques.

I avoid getting drawn or flattered into insular cliques.

So my answer is no.

Edited by - m06 on 02/15/2020 12:49:14

Feb 15, 2020 - 1:54:21 PM

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Group think seems to be the opposite of having one's own belief system and values.

Feb 15, 2020 - 2:45:35 PM
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About 5 years ago I went with my family to Carlsbad Caverns. At the end of the hike there is the option to take the elevator up to the ground level with concessions etc. When we got there, there was a large group of at least 25 people standing around waiting for the elevator. We got there and waited patiently as well, assuming that nobody would just be sitting there waiting for the elevator without having pressed the button to go up. Other people continued to gather behind us. It took me about 3 minutes before it even occurred to me to ask if someone had pressed the button. Upon pressing it the door immediately opened.

I think that a lot of "group think" is making the assumption that other people are going to act in the same way you would (e.g. if you get to an elevator and there isn't anybody waiting for it, then you press the button to call it). I don't really see how we can function without making this assumption to one degree or another, but it leads to mistakes where we discount the obvious solution because we assume that if it worked, then someone else would have tried it.

Feb 15, 2020 - 2:46:04 PM
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m06

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quote:
Originally posted by steve davis

Group think seems to be the opposite of having one's own belief system and values.


Group think is where the need for insecure people to ‘validate’ each other and their opinions and decisions overrides the requirement for scrutiny and competence.

It causes a fatal complacency that makes the crash inevitable by undermining and disabling the means of intelligent prevention.

Feb 15, 2020 - 3:00:51 PM
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9290 posts since 8/22/2006

Group thinking is what gets Lemmings to jump off a perfectly good cliff.

Feb 15, 2020 - 4:46:12 PM

Owen

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Image result for far side lemmings off cliff

Feb 15, 2020 - 4:56:14 PM

chuckv97

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I believe in a collective unconscious...that we’re connected, whether we realize it or not, with our unconscious/subconscious mind. Premonitions, inklings, subtle hunches, etc.
- also applies to mob mentality and the horrible events in Nazi Germany.

Feb 15, 2020 - 6:26:23 PM
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Nobody in MY group thinks they are involved in Group Think.
And I think they are right.

Feb 16, 2020 - 4:01:04 AM
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m06

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quote:
Originally posted by 5B-Ranch

Group thinking is what gets Lemmings to jump off a perfectly good cliff.


...while, even as they hurtle downwards, still under the collective delusion that they are demonstrating their unique competence and suitability as decision-makers.

Edited by - m06 on 02/16/2020 04:08:53

Feb 16, 2020 - 7:06:56 AM

mander

USA

4214 posts since 10/7/2007

I can't find one person to agree with, let alone a room full.

Feb 16, 2020 - 7:19:01 AM

1618 posts since 2/10/2013

Ignorance is fertile ground for group thinking. Information we consider facts, but only serve to reveal our ignorance to more knowledgeable listeners. I stop watching some documentaries because so many lies and misrepresentations are being used.

When I have questions about something I find questionable, I try to get more information before accepting the information as reliable. This sometimes produces surprising results.

Remember what Mark Twain wrote. He wrote that it was better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Feb 16, 2020 - 8:53:27 AM
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I think environment dictates actions.
I've spent half my life alone on a boat all day long,dealing with life one moment at a time.
Making decisions (sometimes life or death) in the moment.

Thoughtful preparation helps things go smoothly.Ignorance in my case was potentially deadly.This daily test of my prep work makes one have a very solid internal belief system that spills over in how I receive information from others.

I take nothing anyone says for granted.I first need to see the big picture and then decide where I stand.I trust my judgment,but don't have an opinion until I see all of the pertaining information.
You can't see the likelihoods (choices) without that.
I don't think we can escape propaganda or engineered information.It is now ever-streaming on the internet and all media.
I do think there should be a lot more focus on why we believe what we do in our school system.
I'm no education expert,but I feel that the chuch used to give people a strong inner belief system that was tough for any group to affect.

This is hard to keep out of a religious thing,but I don't mean to say people should go to church to solve the loss of a belief system,though it's a good place to start.

I am saying our schools which are sorely strained at this time could,when stronger,look into promotinging a healthy belief system.
It would include continuous ethics and civics lessons and exploring all sides of issues having many tangents with no "one right way" allowed.
But,I also think bullies should get a bit of attention in making them stand in front of the whole class and apologizing to the victim(s).

Our schools need so much help from us.

I don't usually write this many words at one sitting.

Feb 16, 2020 - 11:37:10 AM
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18556 posts since 8/17/2008

Ummm . . . I think I'm gonna need some help with this one. J-Lo will tell me what I think when she gets back from the store. I'll get back to you.

Edited by - pandjlocke on 02/16/2020 11:38:28

Feb 16, 2020 - 11:01:53 PM
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Paul R

Canada

12463 posts since 1/28/2010

I'm in an insular clique of one.

Feb 16, 2020 - 11:02:56 PM
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Paul R

Canada

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quote:
Originally posted by pandjlocke

Ummm . . . I think I'm gonna need some help with this one. J-Lo will tell me what I think when she gets back from the store. I'll get back to you.


I don't do what the voices in my head tell me to do.

I do what the voices in my wife's head tell her to tell me what to do.

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