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Jan 23, 2020 - 8:40:31 AM

chuckv97

Canada

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Got one again,,,second one in 7 years. Darn near puked my guts out 2 nights ago,,went to ER , had a scan - it’s a 10 mm job, probably too big to pass. I’m ok now but it’s in my bladder probably waiting to make a run through my urethra,,,,aarrgghh. (I know,, what a wonderful topic to post about!). Anyone have any experiences with this? Can’t get in to see a urologist for 2 1/2 weeks. I guess I’ll have to wait for the next wave of PAIN & run to ER again. Likely they’ll have to laser (or whatever it’s called) it.

Jan 23, 2020 - 8:48:35 AM
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Eric A

USA

407 posts since 10/15/2019

Been there. Yuk.

About all I can offer is dial back the Calcium in your diet, get a little more Magnesium, and some B6 once in a while. Works for me. Going on 20 years now since my last bad one.

None of that will help you with this current 10mm job, but might help for the future.

Good Luck

Jan 23, 2020 - 9:29:50 AM
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Owen

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My experience is limited to hearing one of my brothers tell me about his.   He says they're quite painful. devil

'Way back a dude told me he drank pickle juice to combat the effects of too much schnappes the nite before. I tried it and saw no noticeable effect.... but for some reason (?) I still drink it when it's there.  My wife can't figure it/me out, so I explain (?) it with: "It dissolves the kidney/gall stones.... and besides I need the salt for heart health.  It appears to be working, so why mess with it?"

...hope you get it fixed soon.

Jan 23, 2020 - 9:44:16 AM
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53519 posts since 12/14/2005

My Dr. was ASTOUNDED that I had passed such a LARGE one.
I felt it coming through, and had the presence of mind to capture it, and bring it to him for show & tell, and for lab analysis.
Wish NOW that I had thought to set it on a coin, to show relative size, as I did with several subsequent.

While they pain the BACK something fierce, I felt only a very odd discomfort as they finally passed.

* * * * * * * * * * * * *
Which reminds me of a story in the Saturday Evening Post, in the late 1950's.
It was fiction, and I don't remember a THING about the story, other than it was set in the fictional southwestern town of Kidneystone Pass !

Have been stone free for a year or two.


 

Jan 23, 2020 - 9:45:09 AM
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Mooooo

USA

7448 posts since 8/20/2016

I have no experience, but, in the immortal words of Bill Clinton, I feel your pain. Good luck, I hope they have some relief for you. I'll try to think of baby names, just in case.

Jan 23, 2020 - 9:47:53 AM

chuckv97

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Not pickle juice, but I’ve been drinking apple cider vinegar,,I read that it can dissolve or help break up the stone. Maybe if I place a big speaker against my abdomen and crank up FMB (1949) the vibrations will shatter the little rascal

holy holstein , Mike!  You deserve a metal medal for going through all those....mercy

Edited by - chuckv97 on 01/23/2020 09:51:08

Jan 23, 2020 - 9:51:40 AM
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Eric A

USA

407 posts since 10/15/2019

Leave it to Mike G to post pictures of his kidney stones! At least none of them are wearing a funny hat! surprise

Jan 23, 2020 - 10:06:50 AM
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chuckv97

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Jan 23, 2020 - 10:34:57 AM
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How ironic. I’m laying on my sofa just took a hydracodone half tablet to ease the pain of what maybe a kidney stone. Have had two zapped/ lithotripsy  in the last ten years. Both sides. Pain in the back with that pucky feeling. Pain rotates to the front down to the groin. Not a good feeling. Blood in the urine all signs of a kidney stone. Been there done that experience. Going to try and pass this one got a stone capturer cup that strains the urine. Hopefully it’s not a big one but if I don’t get better here soon my soon to be new urologist will be getting a visit. My old urologist retired man he was the best and now I have to get use to a new one. My advice to anyone that will have lithotripsy is, if you are asked if you want something for nausea in your go to sleep drugs take it. I really didn’t understand what the doctor was asking on my first procedure but I learned real fast after I got home. The next time I had lithotripsy the doctor didn’t have to ask.

Edited by - 5B-Ranch on 01/23/2020 10:45:14

Jan 23, 2020 - 12:35:49 PM
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figmo59

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Gangs of fun..they are...... :0/

Best advise..I can give ya...
When it is about ta ..shoot ..out....
DUN'T RUN OUTA....PEE..!!,

Jan 23, 2020 - 12:57:14 PM
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O.D.

USA

3417 posts since 10/29/2003

Yep. I've had 2 of 'em
The back pain is brutal
Only puked on one episode.

I don't know what happened to the stones,I may have passed them,or I may have pulverized them from digging my fingers in my kidneys trying g to get some kind of relief.
I don't wish them on anyone.

I was told to stay away from powdered drinks and soda.

Good luck
Ev

Jan 23, 2020 - 1:25:52 PM

chuckv97

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I haven’t been drinking enough water,,, need 6 to 8 glasses per day to keep the crap flushed out. Also munch on too much chocolate and nuts

Jan 23, 2020 - 1:37:07 PM
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Eric A

USA

407 posts since 10/15/2019

quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

I haven’t been drinking enough water,,, need 6 to 8 glasses per day to keep the crap flushed out. Also munch on too much chocolate and nuts


I was on a dark chocolate binge when I got my worst one.  Contains oxalic acid which messes with your mineral levels.  Ca and Mg get out of balance and excess Ca forms stones.  The most common type of stone is made of calcium oxalate.  Nuts are high in oxalic acid too.  Which is a shame because I love dark chocolate with nuts in it.  Moderation in all things, I guess.

I'm not a doctor, I just read a lot.

Edited by - Eric A on 01/23/2020 13:51:41

Jan 23, 2020 - 2:50:35 PM
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bubbalouie

Canada

13291 posts since 9/27/2007

Oh No! I wondered where you were. I hear they are no fun at all. Hope it all works out for you! 

Jan 23, 2020 - 3:35:53 PM
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Mike, you've got some impressive internal plumbing there.

Thankfully it's been 2 years since the last incident but I clearly remember the first in 1995, finally resolved by lithotripsy.

To this day the sight of Welch's grape juice gives me the willies.

Jan 23, 2020 - 3:51:05 PM
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9254 posts since 1/15/2005

Mine was 12mm ..... lithotripsy. I did not have the same experience as 5B-Ranch. Whatever IV they gave me before the procedure did not knock me out as I was conscious during the entire episode and did not experience any nausea after it was done. The shock waves from the lithotripsy machine were also not very uncomfortable like my doctor said they would be. Over the next six week you wind up passing a thousand little stones and occasionally there was some discomfort, but not crazy. I asked the doc why they didn't hurt to pass and he said because they do not have spurs on them like the stones that you usually pass. This was in 2008. This past year I had an ultrasound for something else and they went ahead and did my kidneys and both were clear ..... whew!

Jan 23, 2020 - 3:59:57 PM

chuckv97

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I guess everyone’s different, but how long with you guys did it take from initial pain when it goes down the ureter to when it tries to pass out of the bladder through the urethra? Mine is apparently in the bladder now,, what happens when it’s too big to pass?

Jan 23, 2020 - 4:30:09 PM
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2547 posts since 4/19/2008

Google gold coin grass for preventative measures

Jan 23, 2020 - 5:36:04 PM
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Paul R

Canada

12252 posts since 1/28/2010

Geez, Chuck, that's awful. I've never experienced one and (knock on wood - head) hope I never do. You never hear anything good about it. I hope you get it taken care of faster than currently scheduled. I'd say I feel your pain, but I really don't. Best of luck.

Jan 23, 2020 - 5:47:46 PM
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bubbalouie

Canada

13291 posts since 9/27/2007

I hope you have good travelers insurance. A lady from here i know broke a bone in her foot in Vegas. They gave her a blow up cast & a $15,000 bill that was covered by her insurance. 

Jan 23, 2020 - 5:55:01 PM
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OM45GE

USA

93672 posts since 11/7/2007

I don’t have any useful advice but I do have lots of sympathy Chuck. Hopefully it will pass quickly

Jan 23, 2020 - 5:56:40 PM
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chuckv97

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Ya, I always buy insurance,,it ain’t cheap either,,but then us canucklheads never think about paying outright for medics.
I’m not in pain now,,touch wood,, but I’m wondering what happens if it tries to pass out the urethra (the pea shooter)

Jan 23, 2020 - 5:59:22 PM
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chuckv97

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quote:
Originally posted by mmuussiiccaall

Google gold coin grass for preventative measures


Thnx Rick.  Sounds like it also softens the stone so it passes easily.  I'll go see the loco Chinese herbal hawker.

Jan 23, 2020 - 6:00:20 PM
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bubbalouie

Canada

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Jan 23, 2020 - 6:25:45 PM
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Chuck, I hope the gold coin grass puts things on the right path.

My urologist mentioned that an early treatment for stones involved giving the patient a case of beer. The alcohol lent an analgesic effect while the rest of it encouraged frequent visits to the loo. This is probably frowned upon these days.

Jan 23, 2020 - 7:00:59 PM
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O.D.

USA

3417 posts since 10/29/2003

quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

Ya, I always buy insurance,,it ain’t cheap either,,but then us canucklheads never think about paying outright for medics.
I’m not in pain now,,touch wood,, but I’m wondering what happens if it tries to pass out the urethra (the pea shooter)


In my two cases ,nothing happened, that I was aware  of

The severe  kidney pain subsided and that was  it.

I don't know,  sounds like others  have had different  experiences 

 

Everett 

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