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[FF] Sauce/Gravy Additive - "Kitchen Bouquet" Back in the Day

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Jan 23, 2020 - 7:17:31 AM
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rinemb

USA

11887 posts since 5/24/2005

I was looking at copycat recipes for Plaza III soup, and had a "back in the day" moment.  For these recipes and others I reviewed.  It was the use of "Kitchen Bouquet" and Accent (MSG) a lot. 

I was not going to add the Accent-through it all out years ago, though back in the day it was called for in many, many recipes.  We did search for Kitchen Bouquet and it was not available locally (so we Amazoned a bottle).  Meanwhile we used a recommended substitute that was always have on hand and use:  Maggi.  But I remember the bottle of kitchen bouquet around-back in the day.  

Brad


 

Jan 23, 2020 - 7:56:42 AM

9238 posts since 2/22/2007

Yes, there was always a bottle in the cabinet when I was a kid and I never knew what it was all about.

Jan 23, 2020 - 8:10:45 AM
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Eric A

USA

407 posts since 10/15/2019

I always go to "Gravy Master". I think pretty much the same as Kitchen Bouquet. Mostly adds color. All sensory things combine and if it looks right your mind will think it tastes right.

You can start with light yellow chicken stock and convince people it's beef stock if you just get the color right. That's half the battle. The other half, well....

Jan 23, 2020 - 9:54:40 AM
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Mooooo

USA

7449 posts since 8/20/2016

I guess that adds umami to every meal. I'm pretty sure it won't give you asthma or brain damage.

Jan 23, 2020 - 10:07:11 AM
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Owen

Canada

4845 posts since 6/5/2011

Back in the day??   I checked and there's a bottle in our cupboard... BB date of Sept. 2019, so it should be good for quite a while yet.   I'm pretty sure the yocal grocery store still carries it. 

Wikipedia says: Kitchen Bouquet is a browning and seasoning sauce primarily composed of caramel with vegetable flavorings. It has been used as a flavoring addition for gravies and other foods since approximately 1873. It is currently produced by the HV Food Products Company, a subsidiary of The Clorox Company.

.... made by Clorox.... that's enough reassurance for me!!   wink

Jan 23, 2020 - 10:35:41 AM
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Brian T

Canada

16083 posts since 6/5/2008

I remember that weird bottle! So much like the China Lily Soya sauce bottles.
Don't recall the Maggi though. Mom bought packages of sticky chicken and beef stock cubes that had to be mashed up and rendered in a cuo of boiling water.

Victorian Epicure (kitchen company) markets salt-free and MSG-free chicken/beef/vegetable stock powders. Never use a lot but they all taste pretty good.

I have a cardboard box for paid bills, etc under my desk.
In a past life, on the box it reads: Brown Gravy Mix 25lbs.

Jan 23, 2020 - 10:49:29 AM
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Eric A

USA

407 posts since 10/15/2019

quote:
Originally posted by Brian T

I remember that weird bottle! So much like the China Lily Soya sauce bottles.
Don't recall the Maggi though. Mom bought packages of sticky chicken and beef stock cubes that had to be mashed up and rendered in a cuo of boiling water.

Victorian Epicure (kitchen company) markets salt-free and MSG-free chicken/beef/vegetable stock powders. Never use a lot but they all taste pretty good.

I have a cardboard box for paid bills, etc under my desk.
In a past life, on the box it reads: Brown Gravy Mix 25lbs.


Gee whiz, the main reason I buy stuff like this is for the salt and MSG!

Jan 23, 2020 - 11:04:03 AM
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Brian T

Canada

16083 posts since 6/5/2008

I like Sapporo Ichiban chicken noodle soup for breakfast, several times per week.
There's enough salt and MSG in the broth powder but it's insipidly weak.
So I jack it up with the Epicure powder. Double the quantity of powder is just right.

I'm not so bold that I need to buy a jar of MSG.
But a big dose of that might double my picking speed on the wrong strings.

I collect salts from all over the world.
Salt in the mail right now from Iceland.
I never think to add any of them.

Jan 23, 2020 - 12:47:32 PM
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figmo59

USA

29900 posts since 3/5/2008

Gravy Master ..
The only way ta fly...

Just ask yer Heart Dr. .......

Jan 23, 2020 - 1:06:33 PM
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rinemb

USA

11887 posts since 5/24/2005

quote:
Originally posted by Brian T

I like Sapporo Ichiban chicken noodle soup for breakfast, several times per week.
There's enough salt and MSG in the broth powder but it's insipidly weak.
So I jack it up with the Epicure powder. Double the quantity of powder is just right.

I'm not so bold that I need to buy a jar of MSG.
But a big dose of that might double my picking speed on the wrong strings.

I collect salts from all over the world.
Salt in the mail right now from Iceland.
I never think to add any of them.


You got me there again.  What is Epicure powder?  Brad

Jan 23, 2020 - 1:47:43 PM
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Brian T

Canada

16083 posts since 6/5/2008

Victorian Epicure is a Canadian herb and spice company.
The usual pyramid with local sales representatives.
Or you can order directly on line ( never needed to do that).

For many years, I've concocted all my own blends of herbs & spices for my kitchen.
As much as I hate to admit it, Epicure products are pretty good.

They sell dry, powdered chicken, beef and vegetable stock. Add hot water and stir.
I'd be pretty happy to see Fish stock as well.

Only a saint could follow the instructions that they have written for some dish kit preparations.

Jan 23, 2020 - 3:20:44 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

13294 posts since 9/27/2007

I bought a bottle of Maggi yesterday! Learned about it from Fillipino buddies years ago.

My parents used to sprinkle Accent on homemade pizza .

We used to use Hornes GRAVEE gravy enhanser but I just looked it up . No longer made in Canada.

I saw some when I bought the Maggi sauce. I should  buy some for old times sake.

Jan 23, 2020 - 8:22:46 PM

Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

22988 posts since 6/25/2005

Until we moved out to California in 1957, my mom kept a bottle of Kitchen Bouquet in the kitchen. But she started reading Sunset, and doing a lot more “scratch” cooking. The KB disappeared by my late teens.

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