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Jan 21, 2020 - 1:20:15 PM

easy

USA

221 posts since 1/23/2009

Hello friends. I'm looking to build another parts banjo, scrapping together the ingredients from the four corners of the banjo world, and I'd like to incorporate a pot-metal (zinc alloy) flange (I already have a Prucha pot-metal tension hoop). Saga carries a Golden Gate flange (of pot-metal) on the cheap. Any experiences? Advice? Comments? Concerns? Thanks,
David

Jan 21, 2020 - 3:40:20 PM

roydsjr

USA

645 posts since 5/17/2007

They are OK if they fit your rim! They are bigger on the inside where it fits on the rim. I've tried them on Recording king rims are they are too loose fitting so they will warp up when the head is tightened. They need to fit on the rim tight to keep from turning up. I highly dislike a flange that is warped.

Jan 21, 2020 - 6:10:39 PM
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10531 posts since 6/2/2008

I've had a Golden Gate flange on one banjo for about 40 years and it's doing fine. It was probably made in Japan instead of China. Don't know if that makes a difference in quality.

But Roy is correct about fit being a possible problem if you're intending to put the flange on a rim that's already cut.  I learned directly from Saga five years ago that the inner diameter of the Golden Gate flange is between 273 and 274 mm, or about 10-25/32 inches.  That works out to 10.781 inches.

This is in between the prevailing sizes of 10-11/16 (10.6875)  and 10-13/16 (10.8125).  It's just 1/32-inch over 10-3/4 inches, which was the size of Stew-Mac's flange before they switched to the Prucha. 

I suppose there's a chance a Golden Gate flange could fit a rim that wasn't too precisely cut for another flange.  But it's no big deal to have a rim modified to fit a flange. Eric Sullivan trimmed a rim for me a few months ago at very low cost.

The Golden Gate is an acceptable choice for new construction with a rim you'll turn to fit.

Good luck.

Jan 21, 2020 - 7:20:25 PM
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14964 posts since 2/7/2003

The Japanese Golden Gate flange was the number one flange for decades, it was the flange sold by everybody, First Quality etc. The flange changed about 2000 when they started sourcing from China, its NOT even close to the same quality.

Get an RK flange

Scott

Jan 21, 2020 - 7:31:25 PM
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255 posts since 8/7/2007

I have used all of the above mentioned flanges and they all work fine if they are fit properly. For me the Prucha has the best fit and finish with the Saga a close second and the RK a distant third. The one issue I have between the Prucha and the Saga is that I do not believe the hook spacing to be the same. I know that the Prucha armrest does not fit well on the hooks on a Saga hoop spacing. Just be careful of fit issues, that’s all.

Eric

Jan 21, 2020 - 10:46 PM
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Dave_C

USA

14 posts since 10/11/2019

I recently bought a golden gate flange to replace the chrome one on my morgan monroe. It does have a larger inside diameter and doesn't fit. Tried it on my goldstar as well and same thing. Quality wise it's a 6/10. The nickle finish is a rough in spots. Probably going to sell this one as it wont fit anything I have.

Jan 21, 2020 - 11:03:34 PM

14964 posts since 2/7/2003

I found exactly the same issues on the China Saga flange, I had to stop using them. The finish and plating were not something I could have on instruments with my name on them

Scott

Edited by - desert rose on 01/21/2020 23:07:55

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