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Jan 17, 2020 - 2:37:55 PM
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Somebody with a Middle Eastern ( India, Pakistan?) accent called, claimed to be from MEDICARE, wanted to know if I had gotten my new card.
I said no, and he wanted to know the name of my doctor.
I said that he should just look at some of the medicare BILLS that HIS agency had processed, and there it is!
Said his department didn't have the bills.

He asked for just the first name or the last name.
Said they would not send me the new card unless I gave them AT LEAST that info.
I said it didn't make sense, since I might change doctors tomorrow.

BUT- since I'm SUCH a nice guy, I told him I'd take his number and have my doctor call him.
Asked him to hold, while I got a pen.
Oddly enough, he HELD.
I got a pen, wrote down the number.

But, shortly after that, the line went dead.

Didn't BELIEVE him for a moment, but I figured the more time he wasted on ME, the less time available to scam someone else.'

After that, figured I'd call Medicare and report the incident.

And, yesirree, the real lady at the number I looked up,NOT the one he gave me, told me that Medicare does NOT call people, unless the people call them first.
And when they DO call, the call is VERY specific, to answer the questions that the person who called Medicare FIRST wanted answers for.

All y'all be CAREFUL, out there.

Jan 17, 2020 - 2:55:32 PM
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Buddur

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Geez, Mike. Scammers have to make a living too. (eyes roll)

Jan 17, 2020 - 3:05:08 PM

rcc56

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2493 posts since 2/20/2016

For goodness' sake, Mike, if you think there's even a remote possibility that he gave you the actual phone number he is operating from, report it to the Federal Trade Commission.

Jan 17, 2020 - 3:21:36 PM

1138 posts since 11/17/2018

Unrecognized phone numbers go to voice mail.

If they don't leave a voicemail, problem solved.

Jan 17, 2020 - 4:32:55 PM

donc

Canada

6152 posts since 2/9/2010

Call display spoofing is the latest trick. Calls come in from India and they have local phone numbers on the call display. Most of the newer private switchboards have this capability so that multiple companies can operate under the same roof. Our government has ordered the major telcos to now crack down on these spam calls or else. I don't really know the depth of " or else".

Jan 17, 2020 - 4:51:17 PM

Owen

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4847 posts since 6/5/2011

Don, maybe the "or else" is like the hockey referee who tells players vying for the puck [or trying to tie it up, depending on your perspective]:   

"Move it ! Move it! C'mon move it!"   

Oh? ... or else?  ...or else what?

[Or else I'll blow the whistle and we'll have a face-off.]

We get relatively few, but just this aft we had some company or other [Zepher Air Purifiers ?] phone about giving us a $300-400 "gift" for having supposedly filled out a survey last spring.  They wanted to get some further feedback, etc., etc., and assured me that the gift wasn't a coupon to apply toward a purchase.  A second guy called 1/2 hour later to supposedly confirm that I'd be home to take delivery of my "gift" and demonstrate something-or-other.  I left it at:  "AFTER I see the "gift," we'll go from there."   For some reason he never showed.

Edited by - Owen on 01/17/2020 17:07:54

Jan 17, 2020 - 5:20:38 PM
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Or else they'll taunt them again.

Remember all the penalties for violating the do not call list?

There is no penalty, there will never be a penalty, the phone companies cannot be bothered, and the (can't name due to BHO policies, but it ends in ment) doesn't care, but they will all give lip service. I just hang up.

Jan 17, 2020 - 5:39:34 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by donc

Call display spoofing is the latest trick. Calls come in from India and they have local phone numbers on the call display.


Doesn't matter.

If I don't recognize the number, it goes to voice mail.

Jan 18, 2020 - 6:56:26 AM

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You aren't disturbed by the fact that a scammer knows you are on Medicare?

Jan 18, 2020 - 7:05:10 AM

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If I'm at home I answer every call; that being said, if the caller doesn't ID himself sufficiently within five seconds, I just hang up. BTW, EVERBODY should know that government at almost every level from national to local will only contact you by snail mail. Don't play games with the game master, just HANG UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jan 18, 2020 - 8:02:50 AM
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RB3

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589 posts since 4/12/2004

I'm shocked! You'd think that some very stable genius could devise a scheme that would put a stop to these annoying scams.

Jan 18, 2020 - 8:41:44 AM
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Originally posted by RB3

I'm shocked! You'd think that some very stable genius could devise a scheme that would put a stop to these annoying scams.


Wayne "very stable genius" is a oxymoron!

Jan 18, 2020 - 8:48:39 AM
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Owen

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4847 posts since 6/5/2011

 
Originally posted by BanjoLink
 

<snip> .... "very stable genius" is a oxymoron!


Maybe, maybe not...

Image result for stable geniusImage result for stable genius

Jan 18, 2020 - 9:40:36 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Owen
 
Originally posted by BanjoLink
 

.... "very stable genius" is a oxymoron!


Maybe, maybe not...

Image result for stable geniusImage result for stable genius


I stand corrected!  BY the way Owen .... congratulations you beat Mike G to it!

Jan 18, 2020 - 11:05:08 AM
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Owen

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I had started by looking for memes (?) featuring a horse with its neck bent around looking back with an appropriate saying but the above is what I came across...and  sad  I don't know how to modify or add to 'em like Mike does.   Now I've looked up memes with "stable genius" and am amazed [probably something with being a non-American] at the array of merchandise for sale.  Somehow this came up... don't see how it fits in, but it seems kinda funny to me:

Image result for stable genius beer

Edited by - Owen on 01/18/2020 11:07:57

Jan 18, 2020 - 11:06:17 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by flyingsquirrelinlay

If I'm at home I answer every call; that being said, if the caller doesn't ID himself sufficiently within five seconds, I just hang up. BTW, EVERBODY should know that government at almost every level from national to local will only contact you by snail mail. Don't play games with the game master, just HANG UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Me too, but you're more generous than I am.  I only give 3 seconds.  The ones that sometime get me are the ones where they say my name, or my wife's name, then, no matter what I reply, they say well maybe you can help me.  Very clever recording.

Jan 18, 2020 - 11:07:39 AM
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Originally posted by prooftheory

You aren't disturbed by the fact that a scammer knows you are on Medicare?


Frankly, I'm more disturbed that AARP knew the day I turned 50.  All your information that has been collected since birth is available for sale.  The government is one of the biggest vendors.  

Jan 18, 2020 - 11:34 AM
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I'm probably still naive at my advanced age, but I distrust the government less than I do private enterprise, especially the criminal type.

Jan 18, 2020 - 5:24:24 PM

donc

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quote:
Originally posted by flyingsquirrelinlay

I'm probably still naive at my advanced age, but I distrust the government less than I do private enterprise, especially the criminal type.


What if the government is heavily weighted with private enterprise ? 

Jan 18, 2020 - 6:40:20 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

13294 posts since 9/27/2007

We have an unlisted number. Only people that know us ever call. The downside is people don't answer when it says Private Caller on the other end. If you hit star 82 your number shows.

Jan 19, 2020 - 6:17:40 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by flyingsquirrelinlay

I'm probably still naive at my advanced age, but I distrust the government less than I do private enterprise, especially the criminal type.


But the government does sell your private information, along with mailing lists.  How else does AARP know when you turn 50?  Information if valuable, and it is for sale by private and public entities.  

Jan 19, 2020 - 6:49:55 AM
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Hi Dave, there's public information and then there's not-so-public information; the first is the stuff from census forms, voter registrations similar non-invasive questions. The "not-so-public information" comes from information we supply "only" on the condition that it not be shared. But I know, as you do, that within organizations that accumulate such info there is always some low-life SOB employee willing to violate his employment contract. The foregoing is all from the time before the Internet and social media sites; when we sign up to become part of the social network we agree, perhaps unwittingly, to sign away our rights of privacy to the network provider. That's where the mischief begins. I could say more, that's enuf.

Jan 19, 2020 - 8:02:33 AM
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The "not-so-public information" isn't what we tell the government, it is what we inadvertently supply to NGOs, such as Equifax and Facebook. When we apply for a credit card (and who can live without one?) that info that includes salaries, employment history, credit problems etc. follows us forever. Web sites we visit, emails we send, things we author and then post for the public to see, these are things we probably believe are no ones business but our own. If I'm a drunk, and usually buy the booze on a credit card, to whom should that info "belong." Again, I could go on with many more examples, but I won't.

Jan 19, 2020 - 9:08:38 AM
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RonR

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1589 posts since 11/29/2012

We had people knocking on our doors trying to get us to switch electric supply companies.If you show them your current electric bill, they can take the number and switch your service without your permission. They came to my building and intimidated my wife and tennant.
Unfortunately for them I pulled up in the crew truck with 4 roofers on board. After terrorizing them ,we called the police and they were escorted out of town.

Jan 19, 2020 - 10:29:02 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by flyingsquirrelinlay

The "not-so-public information" isn't what we tell the government, it is what we inadvertently supply to NGOs, such as Equifax and Facebook. When we apply for a credit card (and who can live without one?) 


Funny story.  My son never got a credit card, despite my urging when he graduated college.  He also rarely uses cash, and instead uses his debit card.  (IMHO, the most dangerous way to spend money).  Well he recently moved half way across the country and is having his car shipped.  He needed to rent a car when he got there, but the rental company would not accept a debit card without proof that he had a return flight.  My son is smarter than your average rental agent, so he booked a return flight on his cell phone, rented the car, then canceled the flight.  

Once, when I had a CC compromised while on a trip I tried to pay for a hotel room with cash.  They don't like that either.  

Jan 19, 2020 - 10:33:40 AM
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I've never had cable TV, though currently have cable internet. Some 25+ years ago, when cable was first being installed in town the cable company was using a lot of pressure to get us to sign up, offering great deals. They said we needed to pay something like $300 for the box, but that it would be refunded when we turned in the box if we cancelled, and that they paid 5 or 10% interest on the box deposit. (don't remember the exact number). I told them that I did not want the cable service, but that I would take 10 boxes. They went away.

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