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Dec 13, 2019 - 11:06:06 AM
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2450 posts since 9/12/2016

I put my new dunlop pick that was ''yet'' to be bent in the microwave. I set it on 12 seconds.It was pulled out with my fingers and slightly warm but I could easily shape it.Duuhh why did that take so long ,to figure out. Maybe my most immortal gift to music

Dec 13, 2019 - 11:35:29 AM
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53257 posts since 12/14/2005

Sounds a lot safer than the traditional Old Style method of putting  celluloid picks on the thumb and fingers, and holding your hand over a campfire.

Dec 13, 2019 - 11:40:49 AM
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nooby

USA

6728 posts since 2/14/2006

quote:
Originally posted by Tractor1

I put my new dunlop pick that was ''yet'' to be bent in the microwave. I set it on 12 seconds.It was pulled out with my fingers and slightly warm but I could easily shape it.Duuhh why did that take so long ,to figure out. Maybe my most immortal gift to music


how many watts, 1100W?

Dec 13, 2019 - 12:33:30 PM

3744 posts since 10/13/2005

All microwave ovens leak.You need to be 40 feet away at least anytime a microwave oven is on or you too are getting cooked. Microwave damage is accumulative, somewhat like smoking. In China/Russia/France/Italy the upper safe limit of microwave radiation is 10 micro-watts per sq. meter. Here in the USA the upper limit allowed is 1000 psm., 100X higher. Microwave ovens should be banned, aside from supporting needy, dependent billionaires.... banjered

Dec 13, 2019 - 12:45:51 PM
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2450 posts since 9/12/2016

you get sick and die quicker but you already saved a lot of time by using it.

Dec 13, 2019 - 1:10:01 PM
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Kimerer

USA

910 posts since 2/17/2006

Here is a neat factoid. The frequency of the microwave oven radiation is exactly the same as the frequency of the WiFi in your house..... 2.4 Gigahertz.

So, if you have WiFi in your house, you are getting cooked all the time at a far greater dosage than what you are getting out of microwave leakage..... and you don't have to even be using it. It is *every where* anyway.

Don't ask about the cell phone tower down the street.

Or the TV signal that is being broadcast into your home 24/7 whether you are using it or not.

Need I mention AM/FM radio broadcasts?

Dec 13, 2019 - 1:18:52 PM
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460 posts since 8/14/2018

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Originally posted by banjered

All microwave ovens leak.


The 1970s called, and would like their paranoia back, thanks.

But seriously, putting metal objects in a microwave oven is not really a good idea.

https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-we-put-metal-objects-in-a-microwave/

Dec 13, 2019 - 4:55:55 PM
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Banjo Lefty

Canada

1745 posts since 6/19/2014

quote:
Originally posted by banjered

All microwave ovens leak.You need to be 40 feet away at least anytime a microwave oven is on or you too are getting cooked. Microwave damage is accumulative, somewhat like smoking. In China/Russia/France/Italy the upper safe limit of microwave radiation is 10 micro-watts per sq. meter. Here in the USA the upper limit allowed is 1000 psm., 100X higher. Microwave ovens should be banned, aside from supporting needy, dependent billionaires.... banjered


Forty feet????   Ha ha ha hahaha!!  That's a good one.  Clearly you've never heard of the inverse square rule: the intensity of a power source drops off in proportion to the square of the distance.  For a micro-wave oven, even if it does leak (which I doubt), a foot or so of distance is sufficient to render the dosage completely insignificant.  Also, you're confusing mircrowaves with radiation from a source such as X-rays.  The latter is cumulative, the former isn't.  Microwaves are just this side of radio waves, clocking in at around 1 millimetre of non-ionizing raditation, which means that they don't have sufficient power to strip away electrons.  X-rays, on the other hand are in the nanometre range, about one billion times smaller, and those are ionizing, which is why they can do damage in high doses.

Dec 13, 2019 - 6:42:46 PM

2450 posts since 9/12/2016

it did not hurt my Dunlap ,black and white clown barf pick

Dec 13, 2019 - 7:16:12 PM
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12454 posts since 10/30/2008

Pre-microwaves, it was common to dip your plastic thumb pick in HOT water. It would soften and you could then shape it around your thumb.

Dec 14, 2019 - 2:10:53 AM

Paul R

Canada

12053 posts since 1/28/2010

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Originally posted by The Old Timer

Pre-microwaves, it was common to dip your plastic thumb pick in HOT water. It would soften and you could then shape it around your thumb.


That's what I did with my Alaska picks.

Dec 14, 2019 - 3:41:21 AM
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SBPARK

USA

345 posts since 2/25/2011

Man, I thought the OP was talking about placing metal finger picks in the microwave so I gave it a shot since bending my Nationals can be a challenge. Only had them in there for 12 seconds like the OP and It ended up looking like the 4th of July inside my microwave. Barely had enough time to get recommended 40 feet away from that infernal machine. Lightening strikes and sparks were going off everywhere inside that thing. I'm sure some of that leaked out and got me. To add insult to injury I couldn't even bend the little suckers afterward because they were too hot to the touch.

Edited by - SBPARK on 12/14/2019 03:43:25

Dec 14, 2019 - 4:17:49 AM

2450 posts since 9/12/2016

years ago this op did the hot water thing as Earl taught us,then I started using an electric heat gun,but now the nuke rules

Dec 14, 2019 - 4:32:59 AM
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2532 posts since 12/4/2009

quote:
Originally posted by SBPARK

...Only had them in there for 12 seconds like the OP and It ended up looking like the 4th of July inside my microwave. Barely had enough time to get recommended 40 feet away from that infernal machine. Lightening strikes and sparks were going off everywhere inside that thing. ...


Hello,

I started out with Dunlops pics. I dumped them for real metal pics like Pro-Pics and old Nationals.

Real metal is like brass and german silver. Real metal is not supposed to be microwaved. Serious fire or catastrophe failure of the microwave can occur. 

Here is my trick. I use Dawn dish soap to clean all my pics whenever they start slipping. A grease free pic stays on your thumb and fingers better. 

Edited by - Aradobanjo on 12/14/2019 04:33:39

Dec 14, 2019 - 5:04:36 AM

2450 posts since 9/12/2016

yes I am talking about plastic not metal

Dec 14, 2019 - 6:51:42 AM
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SBPARK

USA

345 posts since 2/25/2011

Real metal is not supposed to be microwaved. Serious fire or catastrophe failure of the microwave can occur. 

 


You're telling me! I know and I (barely) lived through it. WHo would have thought metal thumb picks would cause such a ruckus in the mircowave!
 
 

Edited by - SBPARK on 12/14/2019 06:51:59

Dec 14, 2019 - 6:58:09 AM
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3744 posts since 10/13/2005

High Banjo Lefty! Yes, you are right about the inverse square. Nonetheless I have yet to find a microwave oven that does not kick my Cornet meter up into the red danger zone under 40 feet. And yes while microwave radiation is non-ionizing it has profound effects upon our biology. Health scientists like Martin Pall Phd. explain how electromagnetic fields interfere with the gateways/portals of our cells. There is so much information on this topic if you care to look, one is emfsafetynetwork.org I did not seek this issue out, it walked through my office door. Meanwhile, back at banjo ranch.... banjered

Dec 14, 2019 - 7:10:34 AM
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SBPARK

USA

345 posts since 2/25/2011

quote:
Originally posted by banjered

High Banjo Lefty! Yes, you are right about the inverse square. Nonetheless I have yet to find a microwave oven that does not kick my Cornet meter up into the red danger zone under 40 feet. And yes while microwave radiation is non-ionizing it has profound effects upon our biology. Health scientists like Martin Pall Phd. explain how electromagnetic fields interfere with the gateways/portals of our cells. There is so much information on this topic if you care to look, one is emfsafetynetwork.org I did not seek this issue out, it walked through my office door. Meanwhile, back at banjo ranch.... banjered


Seriously, all you need to do is make a hat/helmet out of tinfoil. This hat/helmet will protect you from the often ignored, but very dangerous cell porta/gatewayl damage. Wearing this type of self-made head appliance also means you no longer have to be 40 feet away. Try it, and bust out that Comet meter if you don't believe me.

Edited by - SBPARK on 12/14/2019 07:11:26

Dec 14, 2019 - 8:09:22 AM
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Banjo Lefty

Canada

1745 posts since 6/19/2014

Look at this logically. If you are in the red zone forty feet away, then the power at the zero point (inside the microwave oven itself) should be enough to melt glass. The square of the distance, right? Yet I can put a bowl of soup in mine and after a minute the soup is still tepid.

Or consider this: microwaves have been in widespread domestic use since the early 1970s, almost fifty years now. If they did cause cell damage, we'd know about it by now. There should have been be well-documented epidemics of microwave caused cancers, etc. But there are none. I have been using my microwave several times daily for at least that long (not the same one, of course -- I've only had this one for around ten years), and I have no health issues with unknown causes, nor has anybody in my family.

You can find anything you want on the internet, from fake moon landings to flat earthers to who killed JFK to who wrote Shakespeare, and they all sound plausible, even though there's not a shred of evidence for any of it. I'd put harmful microwaves in the same category.

Dec 14, 2019 - 8:52:06 AM
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SBPARK

USA

345 posts since 2/25/2011

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Originally posted by Banjo Lefty


Or consider this: microwaves have been in widespread domestic use since the early 1970s, almost fifty years now. If they did cause cell damage, we'd know about it by now. There should have been be well-documented epidemics of microwave caused cancers, etc. But there are none.
 


No so quick, sir! Remember a little incident that happened in a city named Chernobyl? An engineer was on a break assigned to monitor the nuclear reactor was on a break and microwaving a burrito. Well, the microwave malfunctioned, caused an enormous leak that obliterated anyone and anything in the 40ft Red Zone, resulting in the entire plant melting down. There's an HBO series about it. The levels were so high they couldn't even use a Comet meter to measure. 

Edited by - SBPARK on 12/14/2019 08:53:43

Dec 14, 2019 - 9:34:44 AM
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2105 posts since 4/5/2006

Lesson: Don't be nuking a burrito while working in a nuke plant. Even a caveman should know better. cheeky  "All men die, but not all men truey live" Surpassing the crock pot, which was a giant step for (the single) man, the micro wave oven is a bachelor's best friend.? lol

Formed the old fashion way, by holding it over a steaming tea kettle, I'm still using a Dunlop (I think) plastic thumb pick that is at least 20 years old. Admittedly, I don't play near as often as I used to but still, it's not like they wear out in 6 months or so. Grime free? The grooves I have cut inside that pick, ala Earl, have become filled with enough rosin I no longer need to dip my thumb into the stuff before playing. 

Edited by - monstertone on 12/14/2019 09:35:41

Dec 14, 2019 - 10:12:24 AM
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DeanT

USA

36231 posts since 7/28/2005

I always love this kind of stuff. Folks freak out about micro waves, and climate change, and ozone layers, and all kinds of bad stuff... and yet many of them turn right around and light a cigarette, drink diet coke, eat processed foods, walk around with excess weight, and don't exercise. We are an interesting lot.

I might add that I went to a metal Dunlop thumb pick 15 years ago. Pretty simple, I just bend it to fit. It was 75 cents at a festival. I'm still using that same one. 

Edited by - DeanT on 12/14/2019 10:14:20

Dec 14, 2019 - 10:12:40 AM
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3744 posts since 10/13/2005

Ha! Pretty funny, burritos and all! Harm from microwave is a scientific question/hypothesis ;just look at ALL the science and decide for yourself. MDs say it is "normal" that more than one in three of us get cancer...but is it? It's OK to "nuke" this microwave contention and drift back to even darker topics...like banjos! banjered

Dec 14, 2019 - 10:53:18 AM
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Kimerer

USA

910 posts since 2/17/2006

I have all metal finger and thumb picks. 

Um. They are supposed to fit? Dang. Now you tell me.

I put on my finger picks about once each year just to remind myself that they are too hard for me and I can't use them. Then they go back into the pick bag for another year. Using them that way, they last a very long time.

Dec 14, 2019 - 1:33:29 PM

SBPARK

USA

345 posts since 2/25/2011

quote:
Originally posted by monstertone

Lesson: Don't be nuking a burrito while working in a nuke plant. Even a caveman should know better. cheeky  "All men die, but not all men truey live" Surpassing the crock pot, which was a giant step for (the single) man, the micro wave oven is a bachelor's best friend.? lol

Formed the old fashion way, by holding it over a steaming tea kettle, I'm still using a Dunlop (I think) plastic thumb pick that is at least 20 years old. Admittedly, I don't play near as often as I used to but still, it's not like they wear out in 6 months or so. Grime free? The grooves I have cut inside that pick, ala Earl, have become filled with enough rosin I no longer need to dip my thumb into the stuff before playing. 


You should try an InstantPot. A single man's best friend. Does everything your crock pot does and more! And no need for a 40ft Red Zone.


 

Edited by - SBPARK on 12/14/2019 13:35:18

Dec 14, 2019 - 2:43:20 PM

2105 posts since 4/5/2006

quote:
Originally posted by SBPARK
quote:
Originally posted by monstertone

Lesson: Don't be nuking a burrito while working in a nuke plant. Even a caveman should know better. cheeky  "All men die, but not all men truey live" Surpassing the crock pot, which was a giant step for (the single) man, the micro wave oven is a bachelor's best friend.? lol

Formed the old fashion way, by holding it over a steaming tea kettle, I'm still using a Dunlop (I think) plastic thumb pick that is at least 20 years old. Admittedly, I don't play near as often as I used to but still, it's not like they wear out in 6 months or so. Grime free? The grooves I have cut inside that pick, ala Earl, have become filled with enough rosin I no longer need to dip my thumb into the stuff before playing. 


You should try an InstantPot. A single man's best friend. Does everything your crock pot does and more! And no need for a 40ft Red Zone.


Ya,those  too., just not as large as my cp.

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