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Are there carbon nylon banjo strings?

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Dec 7, 2019 - 11:21:59 AM
1940 posts since 2/7/2008

I want to try non-steel strings on my open back.

I’ve found a couple of nylon sets, but I don’t see any carbon strings available.

Do they exist?

I tried looking at carbon guitar strings to see if I could just match gauges, but it seems most string mfgrs don’t list gauges for their classical strings.

Dec 7, 2019 - 11:33:38 AM

53204 posts since 12/14/2005

It might be possible to buy nylon "leader Line" from a fishing supply company.
And since it's sold in fairly big spools, you won't have to do it often.
They tell you the gauge, right on the spool.

Shall I send you samples of what I use?
PM me your address.

Dec 7, 2019 - 11:47:43 AM

75 posts since 9/30/2009

I'm finding classical guitar sets work very well. My favorites are the D'Addario Titanium strings, but I have tried the Carbons as well. I buy a Normal tension of Hard tension treble set and then an additional 1st and a wound 4th. They are really pretty cheap so just give it a try and see how you like them.

Dec 7, 2019 - 11:59:45 AM

1940 posts since 2/7/2008

quote:
Originally posted by jfhascall

I'm finding classical guitar sets work very well. My favorites are the D'Addario Titanium strings, but I have tried the Carbons as well. I buy a Normal tension of Hard tension treble set and then an additional 1st and a wound 4th. They are really pretty cheap so just give it a try and see how you like them.


I was thinking of using guitar trebles, but I was looking at labella nylon banjo strings which are 19-22-28-25w-19 where guitar trebles seem quite a bit larger, something like 24-28-33  

Edited by - Quickstep192 on 12/07/2019 12:03:13

Dec 7, 2019 - 12:11:19 PM

csacwp

USA

2505 posts since 1/15/2014

Buy singles from Strings by Mail or a similar company. Savarez and Pyramid offer them.

Dec 7, 2019 - 12:12:29 PM

csacwp

USA

2505 posts since 1/15/2014

quote:
Originally posted by Quickstep192
quote:
Originally posted by jfhascall

I'm finding classical guitar sets work very well. My favorites are the D'Addario Titanium strings, but I have tried the Carbons as well. I buy a Normal tension of Hard tension treble set and then an additional 1st and a wound 4th. They are really pretty cheap so just give it a try and see how you like them.


I was thinking of using guitar trebles, but I was looking at labella nylon banjo strings which are 19-22-28-25w-19 where guitar trebles seem quite a bit larger, something like 24-28-33  

 

 


Because of the substantially higher tension of Carbon strings, you'll want to downsize the gauges. .016'', .018'', .021'', .025w, .016'' is a good starting place and will have far more tension than the LaBella set you mentioned.

Dec 7, 2019 - 12:13:06 PM

456 posts since 8/14/2018

I've got Pyramid PVF lute strings on my Stewart (with a wound fourth), and they work well. You can get them in singles in a wide range of gauges from Strings by Mail. (the gauges I am using are about what Joel suggests above).

Edited by - MacCruiskeen on 12/07/2019 12:14:58

Dec 7, 2019 - 12:20:28 PM

1940 posts since 2/7/2008

quote:
Originally posted by csacwp
quote:
Originally posted by Quickstep192
quote:
Originally posted by jfhascall Because of the substantially higher tension of Carbon strings, you'll want to downsize the gauges. .016'', .018'', .021'', .025w, .016'' is a good starting place and will have far more tension than the LaBella set you mentioned.

That is what I was thinking, but I haven’t found any carbon strings in .016 or .018 (or even nylon for that matter)

Dec 7, 2019 - 12:28:33 PM
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csacwp

USA

2505 posts since 1/15/2014

quote:
Originally posted by Quickstep192
quote:
Originally posted by csacwp
quote:
Originally posted by Quickstep192
quote:
Originally posted by jfhascall Because of the substantially higher tension of Carbon strings, you'll want to downsize the gauges. .016'', .018'', .021'', .025w, .016'' is a good starting place and will have far more tension than the LaBella set you mentioned.

That is what I was thinking, but I haven’t found any carbon strings in .016 or .018 (or even nylon for that matter)


Savarez and Pyramid both make carbon strings going down to sizes smaller than .016''. Check Strings by Mail or String Direct. As for LaBellas (what I use), order them directly from LaBella's website under the early instrument singles category. If a period sound and feel is your goal, skip the carbons and order nylon LaBellas in the following gauges: .017, .019, .023, .024w, .017. I personally use a slightly altered set: .016, .019, .024, .024w, .016.

Dec 7, 2019 - 2:36:34 PM

456 posts since 8/14/2018

quote:
Originally posted by Quickstep192
quote:
Originally posted by csacwp
quote:
Originally posted by Quickstep192
quote:
Originally posted by jfhascall Because of the substantially higher tension of Carbon strings, you'll want to downsize the gauges. .016'', .018'', .021'', .025w, .016'' is a good starting place and will have far more tension than the LaBella set you mentioned.

That is what I was thinking, but I haven’t found any carbon strings in .016 or .018 (or even nylon for that matter)


Pyramid strings go down to .011 if you want that. 

Dec 9, 2019 - 9:10:16 AM

1940 posts since 2/7/2008

I found Pyramid carbon lute strings on StringsByMail.

I’m going to try those and the LaBella and see what happens.

I guess I’m going to need to enlarge the nut slots, right?

Dec 9, 2019 - 10:51:10 AM

10540 posts since 10/27/2006

quote:
Originally posted by Quickstep192

I found Pyramid carbon lute strings on StringsByMail.

I’m going to try those and the LaBella and see what happens.

I guess I’m going to need to enlarge the nut slots, right?


Probably. It depends on the width of the nut slots. Fluorocarbon strings are thinner than nylon at the same tension but larger than steel.

Dec 10, 2019 - 5:06:13 AM

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Can you use the high tension fluorocarbon or nylon strings on old banjos that do not have a truss rod ?

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