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Dec 3, 2019 - 10:29:43 AM

Tobus

USA

1963 posts since 11/17/2015

No, I'm not talking about a Saturday Night Live skit or a brand of beer.  This threat is quite real.  I'm talking about feral hogs.

You've probably heard of the Texas woman who was killed a couple of weeks ago by feral hogs.  According to the article, feral hogs are now on par with sharks for how many people they kill.  Of course, that number is still very low compared to many other things which can kill you on any given day.  So it's not like you have a huge risk of being attacked on any given day.

But think about the fear that has always surrounded sharks.  Movies like Jaws play on our inherent fear of them, and there are a lot of people who will not get into the ocean because of a fear of sharks.  It's a primal fear, being attacked, torn apart and eaten by an animal with razor-sharp teeth.  Now think about the same risk of being eaten by a shark ...but on land.  In your driveway on a regular morning, with no warning.  That's where we are with the feral hog problem, and it's only going to get worse as their numbers continue to increase and they expand into more human-inhabited areas. 

Land sharks.  I think this should be how they are known going forward.  And I think we need a Jaws-level movie about it.  A new monster to instill fear in a generation, just as I was traumatized by the Jaws movies as a child.

Apologies if it sounds like I'm making light of this poor woman's horrifying death.  While the land shark moniker is somewhat tongue-in-cheek, I do think this statistic should give us some perspective on the problem.  I've done my share of hog hunting, and can attest to just how dangerous they can be.  I've been charged by several of them, and were it not for my proficiency with a rifle (and even my pistol on one occasion), I too could be a victim.  They generally avoid humans, but if you happen to get in their way, heaven help you. 

Dec 3, 2019 - 10:34:53 AM

Banjo Lefty

Canada

1714 posts since 6/19/2014

I'm not worried. It's too cold up here for any hog to survived winter outside a heated barn.

Dec 3, 2019 - 10:49:42 AM

14402 posts since 12/2/2005

One would think that given all of this wild boar meat would be easier (and cheaper) to find up here in Noo Wingland. But it's a pricey get. A pity, because it's downright delicious.

Dec 3, 2019 - 10:58:43 AM

Owen

Canada

4404 posts since 6/5/2011

Back when I was trying to farm in west central MB, a neighbour had a small herd of "wild boar."  Several got out.... he enticed some back into the pen, but some of them didn't go for his trickery.  It's a mixed framing area [open fields, sloughs, bush, treed ravines, etc.], and they did just fine on their own... even reproducing.   The farthest I heard them roving was about 3 miles. In one of my [combined] fields, they came along in the spring and just rooted up the tiniest of furrows to get the barley sprouts.   In a few gardens [not ours] it was reported that they did quite a number.  The owner finally solved it by getting a family, known locally for their hunting prowess, to go "harvest" 'em.   

I'm too lazy to look it up, but I've heard reports of places on the prairies  [Beausejour a few years ago?] where they've become a nuisance.   It's my undwerstanding that  the ones in the southern states are 'way bigger than the ones up here.... but I'm no authority.

Edit: Back when farmers used threshing machines, apparently it wasn't uncommon to blow the straw over a stand of willows and let the livestock [cattle and pigs] burrow in and make their own shelter.  My understanding is that the critters were still fed.

Edited by - Owen on 12/03/2019 11:11:46

Dec 3, 2019 - 11:07:40 AM
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Tobus

USA

1963 posts since 11/17/2015

Feral hogs do seem to be mostly a Southern problem at present. But they are spreading north, year after year. See the map below. The blue areas were where they were reported up to 1982. Red is where they have spread in the last 35-ish years. They're slowly creeping north. And the experts say that climate change (of course ...what else?) is going to continue to help them spread further north.
 

Dec 3, 2019 - 11:21:21 AM
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DC5

USA

7898 posts since 6/30/2015

One more reason that city folk don't understand why people need to be able to own guns.

Dec 3, 2019 - 11:30:42 AM

967 posts since 4/22/2018

They are running rife in areas over here too. Problem is in large areas they are in publicly owned forestry where they are poorly managed. We’ve not had any fatalities as they will generally slip into the forest, but having seen them up close and personal, I wouldn’t want to get between a sow and her piglets.

If you do get to shoot some, the government will provide you with free trichinosis testing to make sure you don’t poison yourself eating it.

Dec 3, 2019 - 11:55:51 AM
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rinemb

USA

11695 posts since 5/24/2005

I used to hunt and work a lot in one those little red squares on Tobin's map, in SW Kansas. I used to like to take walks in the woods there. Then I got tired of ticks and ferel hogs. All the eradication efforts can't keep up with the invasion. That said I have been to bbq's in that square where they would smoke cook about 12 hog quarters. They are sooo good to eat. Brad

Dec 3, 2019 - 12:40:29 PM
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Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

22565 posts since 6/25/2005

We nearly wiped out the buffalo in the 19th century. If there were as much economic benefit to be gained from killing wild boars as from killing buffalo, they’d be gone in a few years.

Dec 3, 2019 - 1:15:16 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

12928 posts since 9/27/2007

quote:
Originally posted by Banjo Lefty

I'm not worried. It's too cold up here for any hog to survived winter outside a heated barn.


Banjo Lefty     You never heard of a Pigloo? LOL!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/feral-pigs-canada-montana-squeal-1.5364847

Dec 3, 2019 - 1:17:21 PM

9105 posts since 2/22/2007

Feral hogs will eat you! So will feral dogs. Wild animals are truly wild----and almost always hungry.

Dec 3, 2019 - 1:40:45 PM

65 posts since 9/1/2018

I live in an area infested with this things. My job keeps me in the woods most of the time and never are bother by them, they try to avoid you if possible. They cause terrible field and crop damage, I hate'em and shoot everyone I see. I here hear some people say they taste good but they don't to me. I have eaten a lot of them and every one I have eaten taste them same, Like Piss!

Edited by - Knothead on 12/03/2019 13:41:40

Dec 3, 2019 - 1:50:49 PM
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figmo59

USA

29609 posts since 3/5/2008

quote:
Originally posted by Knothead

I live in an area infested with this things. My job keeps me in the woods most of the time and never are bother by them, they try to avoid you if possible. They cause terrible field and crop damage, I hate'em and shoot everyone I see. I here hear some people say they taste good but they don't to me. I have eaten a lot of them and every one I have eaten taste them same, Like Piss!


I'm just curious .....

 

How do you know..

What piss tastes like..?  :0o

Dec 3, 2019 - 1:52:40 PM

Owen

Canada

4404 posts since 6/5/2011

Link to a MacLean's article about their spread in Canada, including efforts to rein them in... including "Judas pigs" in Saskatchewan: https://www.macleans.ca/society/environment/canada-feral-pigs/

Edit: As for the taste, I've only had it a few times, but the taste ranged from "made me gag" [sample handed out at a trade show booth promoting wild boar] to pretty good [cooked up by a neighbor... NOT the one whose pigs made the previously noted getaway].

Edited by - Owen on 12/03/2019 13:57:23

Dec 3, 2019 - 1:54:40 PM
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RonR

USA

1544 posts since 11/29/2012

My friend paid to hunt them in North Carolina.He shot one through the head with an arrow.It got mad and chased him up a tree. I guess it died in the end as the head is on his wall.

Dec 3, 2019 - 2:11:42 PM
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figmo59

USA

29609 posts since 3/5/2008

He needs ah bigger knife Ron... ;0)

Dec 3, 2019 - 3:15:54 PM

65 posts since 9/1/2018

I knew someone was gonna ask that. It has smell like piss when cook and hint taste when done. I have eaten them cook all kinda ways. Been shut hut up and feed for months. Sow Boar with is nades cut out when shot. They all have a taste like that. When someone says how good it is I say your just drunk. I can it eat but much rather have a Domesticated Hog.

Dec 3, 2019 - 3:36:10 PM

2934 posts since 7/8/2010

South of Tampa Fl Vlasic pickle co used to let a fellow I knew hunt them.. They would tear up the covering over the cukes. He would send several dogs out. When he heard a barking frenzie, he would haul himself through the dark and the brush. The dogs would have a hog by the ears. He had to work fast to hog tie. He caged the hog and sold it in the Carolinas to a controlled hunting business. Got $100 apiece. I called I'm "wild man". This was about 15 years ago.

Dec 3, 2019 - 3:42:03 PM

figmo59

USA

29609 posts since 3/5/2008

quote:
Originally posted by Knothead

I knew someone was gonna ask that. It has smell like piss when cook and hint taste when done. I have eaten them cook all kinda ways. Been shut hut up and feed for months. Sow Boar with is nades cut out when shot. They all have a taste like that. When someone says how good it is I say your just drunk. I can it eat but much rather have a Domesticated Hog.


Yeah..just having fun...

 

Feel free ta poke in me direction....fairs..fare.. ;0)

Dec 3, 2019 - 3:52:22 PM
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Chris Meakin

Australia

2509 posts since 5/15/2011

quote:
Originally posted by Tobus

.....

Land sharks.  I think this should be how they are known going forward.  And I think we need a Jaws-level movie about it.  A new monster to instill fear in a generation, just as I was traumatized by the Jaws movies as a child.

...


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087981/

Filmed not that far from Canberra. A schlock horror parody. It's had some scenes cut that were deemed too gory.

Dec 3, 2019 - 3:52:29 PM

65 posts since 9/1/2018

I don't consider anyone a friend unless you talk Sh!t to me. Down here you never hear anyone say Wild Boar, it's always a Wild Hoagg!

Dec 3, 2019 - 3:58:48 PM

Wyozark

USA

878 posts since 12/2/2012

I've seen them here, just down the road from me. For twenty years it was open season on them. But now the MO Department of Conservation outlaws hunting them because it's just not efficient.* When someone reports wild hogs the MDC will set a pen/trap and catch several at one time and then dispatch them. In 2018 the MDC got rid of over 7,300 hogs.


*You can get permission to shoot them if they are on your property and doing damage or are a threat.

Dec 3, 2019 - 4:03:19 PM

65 posts since 9/1/2018

Here you can shoot them anytime! They are way smarter than a Deer!

Edited by - Knothead on 12/03/2019 16:04:50

Dec 3, 2019 - 4:17:12 PM

52859 posts since 12/14/2005

quote:
Originally posted by figmo59
quote:
Originally posted by Knothead

I live in an area infested with this things. My job keeps me in the woods most of the time and never are bother by them, they try to avoid you if possible. They cause terrible field and crop damage, I hate'em and shoot everyone I see. I here hear some people say they taste good but they don't to me. I have eaten a lot of them and every one I have eaten taste them same, Like Piss!


I'm just curious .....

 

How do you know..

What piss tastes like..?  :0o


TASTE actually happens in the BRAIN, based on messages sent MOSTLY from the NOSE.

A blindfolded person, given a chunk of apple, with an onion held under their noe,will clam you fed them onion.

Most people know what piss SMELLS like.


Dec 3, 2019 - 4:24:24 PM
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2934 posts since 7/8/2010

Sounds like a "trickle down" theory.

Dec 3, 2019 - 4:28:11 PM
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Chris Meakin

Australia

2509 posts since 5/15/2011

quote:
Originally posted by Knothead

Here you can shoot them anytime! They are way smarter than a Deer!


Indeed, they are one of the smartest land animals around.

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