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Nov 17, 2019 - 9:11:12 AM
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943 posts since 4/22/2018

Just sat on the ferry (cuts out a 3 hour drive) en route to a 5 day hunting trip up in Scotland. Looking forward to some good company, good scenery, hopefully a deer or two and definitely a beer or three. I can feel my batteries recharging already.

Nov 17, 2019 - 9:51:23 AM
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bubbalouie

Canada

12896 posts since 9/27/2007

Good luck Jonty! I envy you! yes

Nov 17, 2019 - 10:15:56 AM

14401 posts since 12/2/2005

Is this estate hunting, with beaters and a gamekeeper telling you which deer to shoot, after which the meat gets sold? Or is this hunting-hunting, in which you stalk and (hopefully) get to keep the deer?

Nov 17, 2019 - 10:18:12 AM

52824 posts since 12/14/2005

Will there be banjo and singing afterward?

Nov 17, 2019 - 11:12:42 AM
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figmo59

USA

29551 posts since 3/5/2008

Enjoy yerself.. :0)

Nov 17, 2019 - 2:08:16 PM
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Brian T

Canada

15834 posts since 6/5/2008

Anywhere out of the city is a good place for even a few days.
I wish you well on the hunt.

Nov 17, 2019 - 4:20:27 PM
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oly

USA

1382 posts since 5/27/2006

Good luck on your hunt. I didn't get out at all this year, no antelope, no deer, maybe some pheasent.

Nov 17, 2019 - 5:54:09 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by eagleisland

Is this estate hunting, with beaters and a gamekeeper telling you which deer to shoot, after which the meat gets sold? Or is this hunting-hunting, in which you stalk and (hopefully) get to keep the deer?


I think you’ve maybe been given some duff information about how we hunt over here Skip. As far as deer go there would not be any beaters involved and there are also no tags or bag limits either - we police the cull numbers ourselves as part of our deer management policy but we would never have anyone driving deer towards guns.  Th expat has I shoot is open farm land, we either stalk into deer or use high seats/blinds to ambush them.   

Nov 17, 2019 - 6:20:36 PM

Wyozark

USA

869 posts since 12/2/2012

It's now deer season here. I borrowed a rifle from a buddy to try to mitigate my excess deer. The big ones that tore up my trees and bushes and destroyed my pumpkin patch disappeared about a month ago. Just smaller deer left.

I can get a free permit because I'll hunt on my own land. But I have too many other things to do before I can do any hunting. Like, go see my mother, for example.

I do have a rifle, but it's a scoped 30-06 more suited for the plains and mountains where I lived when I got it. I needed a shorter "brush gun" for the thick woods and hills and valleys of the Ozarks. My buddy loaned me his lever action Winchester in .44 Magnum. He sent along two boxes of ammo; one of which is hand loads.

I'm trying to resist trying to do the Lucas McCain thing on the deer. Trouble is, the rifle doesn't have the big round loop. . .
 

Nov 17, 2019 - 11:45 PM

943 posts since 4/22/2018

quote:
Originally posted by Wet Spaniel
quote:
Originally posted by eagleisland

Is this estate hunting, with beaters and a gamekeeper telling you which deer to shoot, after which the meat gets sold? Or is this hunting-hunting, in which you stalk and (hopefully) get to keep the deer?


I think you’ve maybe been given some duff information about how we hunt over here Skip. As far as deer go there would not be any beaters involved and there are also no tags or bag limits either - we police the cull numbers ourselves as part of our deer management policy but we would never have anyone driving deer towards guns.  The land I shoot is open farm land, we either stalk into deer or use high seats/blinds to ambush them.   

There is  an ‘industry’ for guided stalking where guides (outfitters)  who have bought hunting rights over some land will charge paying guests 1) a fee to stalk 2) a shot fee if they pull the trigger 3)a cull fee or trophy fee depending on if it’s a buck or doe and then 4) a carcass fee should you want to buy the meat.  I dislike this type of business and would never entertain it but it is perpetuated by outfitters and people,who do not have access to hunting land.

i usually keep a carcass or two for myself and friends and then any tremaining beasts go to a local game dealer (wild meat butcher) the profits are split between my hunting group (pays for stands/blinds/etc) and the farmer whose land we hunt on.


Nov 18, 2019 - 6:07:45 AM

14401 posts since 12/2/2005

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Originally posted by Wet Spaniel

I think you’ve maybe been given some duff information about how we hunt over here Skip. As far as deer go there would not be any beaters involved and there are also no tags or bag limits either - we police the cull numbers ourselves as part of our deer management policy but we would never have anyone driving deer towards guns.  Th expat has I shoot is open farm land, we either stalk into deer or use high seats/blinds to ambush them.   


Not duff information, but will cheerfully acknowledge it may be largely obsolete. Stayed a few days outside of London with a business associate of my father's upon my return from Paris in the mid-80s. This was how he hunted, and at the time it was apparently pretty much the only way to do it.

In that I was living in Vermont at the time, where in-season anyone (provided they were licensed and observed reasonable rules), can go nearly anywhere to get a deer. So this approach struck me as bizarre.

Glad it's not the case, and wishing you the very best of luck with your hunt!

Nov 18, 2019 - 7:48:27 AM
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bubbalouie

Canada

12896 posts since 9/27/2007

There's a daily parade of deer going past here on their way down to the river.

These are about 15' from where i'm sitting. It's a group of Blacktail males. It looks like the first one has been hit by a car. That's the only way they get culled around here! 

Nov 18, 2019 - 11:35:33 AM
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Brian T

Canada

15834 posts since 6/5/2008

Nice pic of the deer. Change to spruce trees and it could be my front yard.
I'm never up early enough to see them go by.

Nov 18, 2019 - 1:54:56 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Wet Spaniel
quote:
Originally posted by eagleisland

Is this estate hunting, with beaters and a gamekeeper telling you which deer to shoot, after which the meat gets sold? Or is this hunting-hunting, in which you stalk and (hopefully) get to keep the deer?


I think you’ve maybe been given some duff information about how we hunt over here Skip. As far as deer go there would not be any beaters involved and there are also no tags or bag limits either - we police the cull numbers ourselves as part of our deer management policy but we would never have anyone driving deer towards guns.  Th expat has I shoot is open farm land, we either stalk into deer or use high seats/blinds to ambush them.   


Kill them. Kill them all. I'll never forgive those 4-legged tick transport systems for what they did to my tomatoes. Every tasty bite of venison is a victory over the forces of Chaos. I just wish we were allowed to hunt within the town limits.

Nov 18, 2019 - 2:31:38 PM
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Two red deer hinds (does) for me tonight - jobs a good’un. They’re the biggest of our 6 species - probably around 20% bigger than a white tail. We also put up 3 new high seats (tree stands) and we have a doe box (blind) to move tomorrow before the evenings hunt. Just enjoying a few scoops before we all hit the hay - cracking day all round.

Nov 19, 2019 - 6:15:36 AM
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wizofos

USA

5270 posts since 8/19/2012

quote:
Originally posted by Remsleep
quote:
Originally posted by Wet Spaniel
quote:
Originally posted by eagleisland

Is this estate hunting, with beaters and a gamekeeper telling you which deer to shoot, after which the meat gets sold? Or is this hunting-hunting, in which you stalk and (hopefully) get to keep the deer?


I think you’ve maybe been given some duff information about how we hunt over here Skip. As far as deer go there would not be any beaters involved and there are also no tags or bag limits either - we police the cull numbers ourselves as part of our deer management policy but we would never have anyone driving deer towards guns.  Th expat has I shoot is open farm land, we either stalk into deer or use high seats/blinds to ambush them.   


Kill them. Kill them all. I'll never forgive those 4-legged tick transport systems for what they did to my tomatoes. Every tasty bite of venison is a victory over the forces of Chaos. I just wish we were allowed to hunt within the town limits.


@remsleep   I suggest you use a product called Liquid Fence. We  use it here to keep critters out of our garden and it is the only thing that seems to work. 

Nov 21, 2019 - 10:45:06 AM
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A few pics of the kind of land we were hunting on. Beautiful scenery and plenty of fresh air.




 

Nov 21, 2019 - 2:16:32 PM

14401 posts since 12/2/2005

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Originally posted by Wet Spaniel

A few pics of the kind of land we were hunting on. Beautiful scenery and plenty of fresh air.


Wow. Just being there would be enough for me. But being there and going home loaded down with venison? Pretty darned close to heaven!

Nov 21, 2019 - 5:14:03 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

12896 posts since 9/27/2007

It'd be cool to be able to drive to Scotland!  

Nov 21, 2019 - 7:25:47 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

12896 posts since 9/27/2007

Wet Spaniel I just came back from an internet trip to Yorkshire Dales! Beautiful country.

theculturetrip.com/europe/unit...-england/

 

Edited by - bubbalouie on 11/21/2019 19:26:56

Nov 21, 2019 - 9:01:57 PM
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Neil Allen

France

809 posts since 6/15/2014

There are so many deer over here that the French government has halved the price of the national hunting permit, to try to increase the number of hunters (there are already 1.2 million hunters out of a population of about 65 million).

As for boars, they are starting to become more common in urban areas. I read an article in "Le Figaro" a few weeks back that said that French hunters shoot about 700,000 boars a year out of an estimated population of 4 million.

So come over here please, Jonty, your services are required! smiley

Nov 22, 2019 - 1:16:37 AM
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Wet Spaniel I just came back from an internet trip to Yorkshire Dales! Beautiful country.

theculturetrip.com/europe/unit...-england/

 


Thanks Bob, it is!  I bet we could all say that of each other’s stomping grounds.  On your link, I can see the hill Pen y Ghent from my office window, and I can be at the top of it within 50 minutes with a fair wind.  

Nov 22, 2019 - 1:23:13 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Neil Allen

There are so many deer over here that the French government has halved the price of the national hunting permit, to try to increase the number of hunters (there are already 1.2 million hunters out of a population of about 65 million).

As for boars, they are starting to become more common in urban areas. I read an article in "Le Figaro" a few weeks back that said that French hunters shoot about 700,000 boars a year out of an estimated population of 4 million.

So come over here please, Jonty, your services are required! smiley


Neil, my in-laws live in the Forest of Dean and they suffer the same problem with the boar.  Anything from a whole field, a grass verge or the grass circle in the centre of a roundabout are all turned over to a state where they appear to be ploughed.  The local forestry commission cull them, but not in the numbers that they should be doing.

the land I was shooting has been inundated with deer recently with large herds so we had our work cut out for us to try and thin them out.

Nov 22, 2019 - 1:35:08 AM
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Neil Allen

France

809 posts since 6/15/2014

Yes, we are not that far from Paris but we even get boar digging up our neighbours' gardens, although they don't come in ours because it's enclosed. They also cause a lot of road accidents.

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