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Nov 14, 2019 - 7:09:54 PM
556 posts since 8/30/2012

I just picked up a Framus longneck banjo. It needs some work to say the least.

The 1st fret fell out of the fret slot. I have the original fret. I've repaired neck cracks but never done fretwork before. Is there anything special I need to do to repair it? Do I just hammer it back in, or should I clamp it? Is glue necessary, and if so what type of glue?

Thanks

Nov 14, 2019 - 7:25:54 PM

37 posts since 11/29/2012

Seems like a small dot of titebond in the center would do, so no one has to grind it out if there's ever a refret, but I'm not a luthier!

Nov 14, 2019 - 8:25:24 PM
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rcc56

USA

2351 posts since 2/20/2016

You will have to radius the fret and install it with a hammer, starting at one end and working gradually to the other end;

-or-

clamp it in using a shaped caul to protect the back of the neck, and a caul to fit over the fret.

I prefer a hammer, but if you don't do it right, you can end up with a loose fret end.  I often work my way across with a hardwood block between hammer and fret, especially if the fret is not wanting to grip.

Since the fret was so loose that it pulled out, you will probably have to find a way to make it fit more snugly. I have a tool for crimping the fret tang for a snug fit, but it is an expensive tool. In the old days, we would sometimes ding the back of the tang with a chisel shaped blade to help it to grab. This is tricky to do, but it will work if you're careful.

You can put some Titebond Original, Titebond liquid hide glue, or just a couple of drops of super glue in the slot. I prefer the hide glue, and avoid super glue unless nothing else will hold.

Go to frets.com and read some of the fretting articles under "Items for luthiers" before you start.

Edited by - rcc56 on 11/14/2019 20:32:10

Nov 15, 2019 - 6:15:05 AM
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beegee

USA

21389 posts since 7/6/2005

On a Framus, CA would be my choice. A soldering iron can be used to heat the fret if it ever needs to be removed.

Nov 15, 2019 - 6:40:21 AM
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KCJones

USA

556 posts since 8/30/2012

The fret fell out because the neck cracked and the fretboard flexed a bit at the fret slot, which opened the slot up. I've repaired the crack and the slot is tight now so it should fit nice and snug. I will just put a tiny drop of glue in to make sure it stays. The fret is already shaped correctly and seems to be in good condition, so I'll just use a wood block and hammer it in.


Thanks for the help guys.

Nov 15, 2019 - 6:45:34 AM
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KCJones

USA

556 posts since 8/30/2012

quote:
Originally posted by beegee

On a Framus, CA would be my choice. A soldering iron can be used to heat the fret if it ever needs to be removed.


Bob, forgive my ignorance what is CA? My plan was to use super glue but this is mostly a learning exercise for me so I want to be sure to use the right thing. 

Nov 15, 2019 - 7:03:30 AM

277 posts since 5/29/2015

Cyanoacrylic=super glue

Nov 15, 2019 - 7:40:10 AM
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6351 posts since 8/28/2013

CA--the post office abreviation for "California."

Nov 15, 2019 - 10:05:53 AM
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KCJones

USA

556 posts since 8/30/2012

I'll be sure to put some Santa Monica beach sand into the fret slot.

Thanks everyone.

Nov 15, 2019 - 3:13:51 PM

Fathand

Canada

11518 posts since 2/7/2008
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quote:
Originally posted by G Edward Porgie

CA--the post office abreviation for "California."


Or the internet abbreviation for Canada

Nov 16, 2019 - 7:01:35 AM

1802 posts since 11/18/2010

quote:
Originally posted by Banner Blue

Cyanoacrylic=super glue


Cyanoacrylate

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