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Nov 11, 2019 - 8:26:22 AM
70388 posts since 5/9/2007

As luck would have it I have a doctor's appointment in Portland tomorrow morning.Leaving around 8 for a 10:40 arrival and removal of sutures.
Forecast is for a nasty,freezing rain to get through.
I haven't set the little Hyundai on Traction Control yet,but intend to make the trip with it on.
I'll go fill the gas tank this afternoon.

Nov 11, 2019 - 9:04:42 AM

9095 posts since 2/22/2007

Lightweight fwd vehicles do very well in the slop, sometimes much better than heavy 4x4s, but getting going after stopping on a hill can be an issue. I've never driven one with traction control but that might solve that problem. I do know that Subaru's AWD works wonderfully. But nothing works on sheet ice. Be careful out there!

Nov 11, 2019 - 10:06:26 AM

2670 posts since 7/28/2015

Do they preemptively salt in Maine?

Nov 11, 2019 - 10:30:12 AM
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bubbalouie

Canada

12877 posts since 9/27/2007
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Drive safe Steve! Traction Control. That's another good name for a banjo tune with lots of slides & not so many hammer ons.

Nov 11, 2019 - 11:22:30 AM
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70388 posts since 5/9/2007

I got iced in at a sleepover after a gig up country a few years ago in a Yaris with studs.
It was a steep driveway and I couldn't get 1/4 of the way up it in 1st gear.
I turned around and backed up that icy 150 feet to the main road on the second try.
Lotsa dig in reverse with the weight on the downhill side.

Any of them are better than a 2wd empty pickup.

Nov 11, 2019 - 11:38:04 AM

9095 posts since 2/22/2007

---"Any of them are better than a 2wd empty pickup.--" No joke, that's my daily drive and I've gotten stuck in dry gravel and on wet grass. Without a limited slip diff they are useless on anything other than dry pavement.

Nov 11, 2019 - 12:33:43 PM

mander

USA

3871 posts since 10/7/2007

quote:
Originally posted by steve davis

As luck would have it I have a doctor's appointment in Portland tomorrow morning.Leaving around 8 for a 10:40 arrival and removal of sutures.
Forecast is for a nasty,freezing rain to get through.
I haven't set the little Hyundai on Traction Control yet,but intend to make the trip with it on.
I'll go fill the gas tank this afternoon.


Sutures? I thought they used the dissolving ones for outside closures. Can't say I had many put in, but Dad always took out the ones I got. He was a good dad. I often wished he had been a doctor. He had a natural flare for it. 

I will admit to being a coward when it comes to icy roads. If suture removal was all I was going in for, I'd do it myself and avoid the risk.

Nov 11, 2019 - 12:45:13 PM

bubbalouie

Canada

12877 posts since 9/27/2007
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I used to have an old VW Golf with summer tires. We had 2 feet of snow over night but the roads were plowed.

When I got to work the long parking lot wasn't plowed yet but my lift kit Dodge Buddy was right ahead of me.

His wheelbase was way wider than mine so I drove in one side of his tracks right up behind him.

The few other guys that actually made it in were all laughing how my little rabbit was barely sticking out of the snow!

Nov 11, 2019 - 1:04:58 PM
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Iron Paw

New Zealand

403 posts since 11/28/2014

We had a good dump of snow last Winter, and I had a 740km trip to make (about 500 miles), with the tanker/trailer unit.
Heavy trucks are limited to 90kph in New Zealand, and with narrow, winding roads sometimes we get a few cars stuck behind for a while.
Being fully loaded helped get the truck tyres down into the road surface and with traction control and both diff's locked up (so 4 pairs of tyres working hard) I had OK traction. Not brilliant, but OK.
Arrived at my destination with a nice 'tail' of cars following me...using my tracks to get through the snow.
It was quite funny to come up to cars parked up because of the snow, and watch them pull out to join my wee convoy.
One of those days when the car drivers were happy to just follow along and not complain about that nasty slow truck holding them up.
Given that we are fairly mountainous down here, and get hit by Polar blasts each Winter, I actually prefer driving through with the truck. Way more traction than a car, and great for when the roads are flooded too (yeah, we get floods too).
Hey Steve...safe travels mate.

Nov 11, 2019 - 1:55:02 PM
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Brian T

Canada

15828 posts since 6/5/2008

Tire quality makes just about as much difference as 4x4.
By the law, we have to run ice tires ( mountain+ snowflake symbol in the sidewall or the M+S mud and snow, nearly as good) from October 01 to April 30. Very soft and lots of sipes for traction on wet ice. I'm running Firestones alpines on my Suburban this winter, they are a pretty good rain tire as well. Cooper Discover alpines are excellent.
All the same, you learn quick how to pedal it almost by reflex.

Nov 11, 2019 - 2:27:39 PM
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bubbalouie

Canada

12877 posts since 9/27/2007
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When I lived in arctic conditions the snow plow only went down the middle of the street & plowed in all the cars on the sides. We had to shovel the City sidewalk or be fined! 

I had to shovel 2 entrance ruts & 2 exit to get in & out of my spot in front of my house.

It was hard getting rolling out of there with only rear wheel drive.

I had a tobacco can of salt & sand & I would hang out the door working the gas & clutch while pouring it in front of the back tire & burn right outta there! 

Nov 11, 2019 - 2:46:26 PM
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70388 posts since 5/9/2007

I've always enjoyed driving in the snow and ice.
Back when I was going to SMVTI they were beginning the building of the Maine Mall.
The parking lots were what went in first.As soon as there was a good icing we'd pile into my '63 BelAir and head for those parking lots.Many acres in size, we'd enter at around 60 mph,cut the wheel and floor it.
The goal was to get 20 revolutions.

Nov 11, 2019 - 3:23:05 PM
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9095 posts since 2/22/2007

Steve, my father took me to an empty mall parking lot the first freezing snow after I got my license (1969) and had me intentionally sliding all over the place. Braking and accelerating and turning hard, breaking free the front end , then the rear end, etc. It was big fun and there were a few 360s involved but that was not the point. He wanted me to know what happened when you lost traction and what to do about it. I got very good at recovering control, or at least managing the slide. That has saved my butt on more than one occasion in the years since and I can generally get around very well on icy streets IF I can just manage to avoid those who cannot.

Nov 11, 2019 - 5:03:23 PM

14398 posts since 12/2/2005

quote:
Originally posted by prooftheory

Do they preemptively salt in Maine?


More specifically, they pre-brine. You see those stripes on the highway, you take a year off the life expectency of your car.

Nov 12, 2019 - 5:34:47 AM
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wizofos

USA

5267 posts since 8/19/2012

They are forecasting 3-4" here tomorrow and we have tickets for Arlo Guthrie in Green
Bay ( about 45 miles away). Will take wifes AWD Equinox and expect roads to be plowed and salted by the time we are driving. I have a 2wd F150 with a locking rear end and traction control and have never owned a 4wd. Seldom have problems. I will add about 200# of water softener salt over the rear axle. Make sure you carry a square point dirt shovel instead of one of those light weight snow shovels back there. If all else fails I can cut open one of the bags of salt for under the wheels.
Learned to drive 2wd in snow and how to handle it, slow down and learn how to control the skids.

Nov 12, 2019 - 1:21:40 PM
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70388 posts since 5/9/2007

My winters were often done with various 2wd trucks from Mazda B2000,F150,F100('68 w/300 straight 6 and a bunch of rear wheel drive cars.
I don't buy snow tires anymore.
Easy drive to Portland this morning.Got there an hour early and got seen early.Back on the road by 11 and home just after 12:30.
The unmarked Sheriff's car returned my license and associated paper work with a warning about speeding in Brunswick.I asked to shake his hand and he did.

Nov 12, 2019 - 4:24:33 PM

2728 posts since 10/17/2009

Traction Control in my FWD Ford is essentially just preventing the tires from spinning, not getting  stuck; (I believe engaging the anti-lock brakes) Most helpful if from a dead stop; or in getting up icy incline, perhaps if stuck in a small rut. Even then, can be a bit limited results.  Not sure if it has any function driving down the road.

Good winter tires or studs, overall work better. Tire chains (or cables) for if really icy.

Nov 13, 2019 - 2:59:15 PM

70388 posts since 5/9/2007

Traction Control keeps the wheels from spinning when accelerating,basically fighting the spin with brake pressure,I believe.
Turns out mine is on by default and I can choose to disable it to some extent.
The system in my wife's 2014 Accent is more aggressive when left on.
Hers is a 6 speed manual and mine's a 6 sp. automatic.

I'm going with the all-seasons that came on it.They have 20k on them now,but very good tread depth.Looks like they'll get to 60k no prob.
If things get too severe I'll throw on a set of Coopers w/studs.

Nov 13, 2019 - 3:26:43 PM
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figmo59

USA

29522 posts since 3/5/2008

I had 8lbs traction on me right leg.................

Nov 13, 2019 - 3:36:46 PM
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70388 posts since 5/9/2007

Adding weight always helps.
A friend of mine challenged a truck to a race up a snowy hill a few winters,ago.
Truck said ,"you got a bet" and they lined up at the bottom.
The Pontiac beat the truck to the top and that fellow opened the back door and let his wife out of the back seat.
He said,"She's the perfect weight."

Nov 13, 2019 - 5:23:24 PM
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figmo59

USA

29522 posts since 3/5/2008

Now....
That's ah true Mainer Steve... ;0)

Nov 14, 2019 - 6:59:25 AM
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figmo59

USA

29522 posts since 3/5/2008

quote:
Originally posted by figmo59

I had 8lbs traction on me right leg.................


Oh...

Fergot to mention..

That cameahbout from...

 

Lack of traction..... :0/

Nov 14, 2019 - 9:58:24 AM

70388 posts since 5/9/2007

OW!

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