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Oct 21, 2019 - 8:29:53 AM
24 posts since 6/23/2015

It's an Elton tailpiece on an aluminum rim. Don't see any markings, any chance this is an early Ode or Christy?

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Oct 21, 2019 - 8:42:08 AM
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4781 posts since 9/21/2007

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Originally posted by D Webster

It's an Elton tailpiece on an aluminum rim. Don't see any markings, any chance this is an early Ode or Christy?

RARE VINTAGE 5 STRING ELTON BANJO


It is not an aluminum rim.  It is a nickel silver clad wood rim. Banjo was built by Gretsch. 

Low end-- nothing spectacular $300 is high.

Oct 22, 2019 - 7:41:51 AM
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6252 posts since 8/28/2013

$300 is too much, especially with that horrible Elton Tailpiece. That alone should devalue the instrument. That particular tailpiece is the most difficult to put strings on of any tailpiece I've ever encountered.

Oct 22, 2019 - 7:49:23 AM

10440 posts since 10/27/2006

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Originally posted by G Edward Porgie

$300 is too much, especially with that horrible Elton Tailpiece. That alone should devalue the instrument. That particular tailpiece is the most difficult to put strings on of any tailpiece I've ever encountered.


Oh come on... There are other Elton tailpieces just as bad — or worse.

I hate them, too.

Oct 22, 2019 - 8:22:54 AM

4781 posts since 9/21/2007

So here is something interesting.  These banjos were made when?  1920?

Here is a often linked to film of Uncle John Scruggs.  He is playing a banjo with the very same peghead.

https://mirc.sc.edu/islandora/object/usc%3A1868

Notice how old his looks.  Considering that the film was made in 1928 there was some obvious "aging" applied to the banjo.  Notice the hand made 5th peg-- right where everyone can see it.

The film has long been called out for what it is-- a staged situation showing the "good old days" of the "singing happy darkie."  Complete with a newish banjo that has been made to look old and worn out.  The perfect Jim Crow era ideal of the Black musician's natural setting.

This film that has obvious racist tones is still used as an "authentic" depiction of Black Banjoists-- even in the new Ken Burns Doc.

Sorry for the OT rant.

I also do not like the Elton TPs.

Oct 22, 2019 - 8:29:30 AM
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Helix

USA

11944 posts since 8/30/2006

I don’t  think it’s a rant

The last I knew there were about 3 bands doing black face and singin’”Mammy”. And they ain’t having a good time, neither.

It’s like when somebody reverses the negative to show Paul McCartney playing right handed, they just don’t get it


 

Edited by - Helix on 10/22/2019 08:30:02

Oct 22, 2019 - 8:45:40 AM

6252 posts since 8/28/2013

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Originally posted by mikehalloran
quote:
Originally posted by G Edward Porgie

$300 is too much, especially with that horrible Elton Tailpiece. That alone should devalue the instrument. That particular tailpiece is the most difficult to put strings on of any tailpiece I've ever encountered.


Oh come on... There are other Elton tailpieces just as bad — or worse.

I hate them, too.

 


Maybe just as bad, but NOT worse.  I've dealt with many of those terrible Elton monstrosities, but that one on the OPs banjo was the only one I almost gave up on. If I ever encounter another of these, I'll imediately remove it and maybe even rent a steam roller so I can crush it!

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