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Bought a mystery tenor- need help identifying

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Oct 20, 2019 - 6:20:58 PM
26 posts since 9/25/2019

I bought an old tenor banjo on Ebay, can anybody provide any info?
Looks well loved from the photos, I want to say 1920s, but maybe someone can clue me what I have here.




 

Oct 20, 2019 - 6:23:48 PM

26 posts since 9/25/2019

more pix




 

Oct 20, 2019 - 6:27:15 PM

26 posts since 9/25/2019

few more pix




 

Oct 20, 2019 - 6:31:46 PM

26 posts since 9/25/2019

couple more




Oct 20, 2019 - 7:13:25 PM

26 posts since 9/25/2019

A web search makes me think its a Regal.
Have found another one with the rays around the crown just like it.


worthpoint.com/worthopedia/192...813049039

Oct 20, 2019 - 7:18:45 PM

26 posts since 9/25/2019

This is the headstock photo from the Regal , looks like a match


 

Oct 20, 2019 - 8:09:08 PM

4546 posts since 3/22/2008

I think it is an Oscar Schmidt banjo.

Oct 20, 2019 - 10:47:09 PM

26 posts since 9/25/2019

quote:
Originally posted by beezaboy

I think it is an Oscar Schmidt banjo.

Thanks, seems very possible.

Perhaps that other "Regal" isn't a Regal at all.


Oct 21, 2019 - 3:16:56 AM

4546 posts since 3/22/2008

Many years ago I saw photos of your style banjo with the crown logo.
It was identified as a (blank) -- I forgot now who it was.
I thought at the time - wow I've got to remember this logo.
Recalling now I seem to remember Schmidt but very unsure.
If the neck stablilizer slides down into cuts or channels in the dowel stick it's Schmidt.
If not, it might be Regal after all as Regal did use a crown in their printed logos.
I cannot find where I wrote down the identity of your crown logo.
Very frustrating.

Oct 21, 2019 - 5:35:28 AM

1920 posts since 4/7/2010

I also lean towards Oscar Schmidt. Two pictures that would help is one showing the entire neck attachment and another of the side of the heel and rim. I can tell a lot from that information.

On the crown; I wonder if the person that ID'd it as a Regal made an accurate identification. There is a lot of assumption on vintage instrument identification and I don't trust many sources, including well known vintage dealers.

Bob Smakula

Oct 21, 2019 - 5:38:14 AM

1920 posts since 4/7/2010

And, as I have mentioned previously, I find it funny that there is a lot of great information on good/high end instruments, but when it comes to the cheap stuff, it can be next to impossible to nail down the details.

Bob Smakula

Oct 21, 2019 - 6:59:48 AM

4546 posts since 3/22/2008

Okay. I found my notes (dated 12/1/2018).
Your banjo is an Oscar Schmidt Company, 87 Ferry Street, Jersey City, N.J., product.
One of the OS brands was "Sovereign" (middle grade banjo) which I have seen with your crown logo.
The 17 fret open back Sovereign tenor banjo was ca 1917ish but I don't know how long that particular model was available. Maybe early, early 1920.
You will find that the neck stabilizer fits into channels cut into the sides of the dowel stick. This is an OS cue. The peghead shape is also a cue but other makers made similar shapes so peghead shape is not ideal identifier.

Oct 21, 2019 - 8:37:43 AM

DSmoke

USA

732 posts since 11/30/2015

I saw a banjo just like that yesterday for sale while searching around online. Did you just buy this and it's possible it the same one? If not, I will go looking for it. I believe it was labeled "crown banjo" on the ad.

Edited by - DSmoke on 10/21/2019 08:38:19

Oct 21, 2019 - 8:49:39 AM

1920 posts since 4/7/2010

Here's a badge from an Oscar Schmidt Sovereign tenor banjo I have for sale. The same crown with the surrounding lines is on the original poster's instrument. My banjo is from around 1920, I suspect the original poster's banjo is later.

More pictures of my Oscar Schmidt Sovereign banjo are available here.

Bob Smakula
 


Oct 21, 2019 - 1:19:39 PM

26 posts since 9/25/2019

quote:
Originally posted by DSmoke

I saw a banjo just like that yesterday for sale while searching around online. Did you just buy this and it's possible it the same one? If not, I will go looking for it. I believe it was labeled "crown banjo" on the ad.


I did just buy it yesterday on Ebay, Thanks !

Appreciate the help, everyone..

Oct 22, 2019 - 7:37:41 AM

6252 posts since 8/28/2013

Looks like an Oscar Schmidt to me. I believe (but I'm not dead certain) they once made a "Sovereign" model, which would explain the crown logo.

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