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Oct 15, 2019 - 8:34:39 AM
319 posts since 1/30/2019

If so, how do you know. And if not, what is it? The seller doesn't know.
And opinions on difference between a LW and a vegaphone professional?
Andy






 

Oct 15, 2019 - 8:47:59 AM

36 posts since 4/8/2019

The banjo is not a Vegaphone professional, which is always a bit more decorative. To know exactly which model it is, undo the screw in the center of the resonator (back), and you'll be able to see the type of tone ring. There is likely to be a model stamp and serial number on the rim and dowel stick.

RA

Oct 15, 2019 - 8:55:56 AM

319 posts since 1/30/2019

quote:
Originally posted by EulalieBlue

The banjo is not a Vegaphone professional, which is always a bit more decorative. To know exactly which model it is, undo the screw in the center of the resonator (back), and you'll be able to see the type of tone ring. There is likely to be a model stamp and serial number on the rim and dowel stick.

RA


Thanks @Eulalieblue. This is in an auction house a little too far away to go and see, so can't get the resonator off. 

I'm looking at a vegaphone professional elsewhere, so I know it's not one of those. I think this one will be cheaper than the professional, as it's a less high quality banjo and in worse condition.... But weird things happen in auctions!

You can't see the side of any tonering above the bracket band. That's why I thought little wonder. Are there other Vega models at the low end like the LW? 4 strings is new to me.

Thanks for looking!

Andy

Oct 15, 2019 - 10:17:26 AM

6252 posts since 8/28/2013

This is absolutely not a Little Wonder, but is either an M or a Professional. I'm thinking Professional. You can't see the tone ring because the photo is from a bad angle, and the tension hoop has been pulled down too far. (I'll add, too, that even a little wonder should show the tone ring skirt, even though it's tone ring was very simple, so that's not a good way to tell the difference.)

The best identifier is the bracket band. The LW did not have a bracket band, which this one does. Also, he headstock inlay would be more plain on an LW.

It looks a bit beat, particularly the resonator, so it might go cheaply. Even beat up, it would be an excellent banjo.


 

Oct 15, 2019 - 10:29:02 AM

319 posts since 1/30/2019

quote:
Originally posted by G Edward Porgie

This is absolutely not a Little Wonder, but is either an M or a Professional. I'm thinking Professional. You can't see the tone ring because the photo is from a bad angle, and the tension hoop has been pulled down too far. (I'll add, too, that even a little wonder should show the tone ring skirt, even though it's tone ring was very simple, so that's not a good way to tell the difference.)

The best identifier is the bracket band. The LW did not have a bracket band, which this one does. Also, he headstock inlay would be more plain on an LW.

It looks a bit beat, particularly the resonator, so it might go cheaply. Even beat up, it would be an excellent banjo.


 


Interesting! Thanks!

Oct 15, 2019 - 11:37:20 AM

67 posts since 9/30/2009

With that headstock inlay and the bracket band, I'd say it is most likely to be a Style M with the Tubaphone tone ring. Could be a very nice banjo to play or convert to five string.

Oct 15, 2019 - 1:33:01 PM

319 posts since 1/30/2019

quote:
Originally posted by jfhascall

With that headstock inlay and the bracket band, I'd say it is most likely to be a Style M with the Tubaphone tone ring. Could be a very nice banjo to play or convert to five string.


Great, thanks. It does look like a style m from checking around on BHO. 

Thanks for the advice!

Andy

Oct 15, 2019 - 1:50 PM

6252 posts since 8/28/2013

The later Style M and the Professional shared the same peghead inlay pattern. They also both used the Tubaphone tone ring and the bracket band. The best way to know here would be to see the entire banjo or to look at the dowelstick markings.

If I'm not mistaken, the M only had 17 frets, whereas the Pro had 19.

Oct 15, 2019 - 2:47:14 PM

319 posts since 1/30/2019

quote:
Originally posted by G Edward Porgie

The later Style M and the Professional shared the same peghead inlay pattern. They also both used the Tubaphone tone ring and the bracket band. The best way to know here would be to see the entire banjo or to look at the dowelstick markings.

If I'm not mistaken, the M only had 17 frets, whereas the Pro had 19.


Ok, so both likely models for this are nice banjos. Got a good feeling about this one....

Oct 15, 2019 - 4:00:52 PM

67 posts since 9/30/2009

Thanks George! That's tidbit I wasn't aware of. I'll have to bone up on my tenors.

Oct 15, 2019 - 4:18:25 PM

rexhunt

USA

2639 posts since 10/11/2005

Wouldn't the pro have geared pegs?  Friction pegs on a tenor are not fun.

Rex

Oct 15, 2019 - 7:02:04 PM

DSmoke

USA

732 posts since 11/30/2015

quote:
Originally posted by rexhunt

Wouldn't the pro have geared pegs?  Friction pegs on a tenor are not fun.

Rex


IIRC I've had a few Pro's with friction tuners that I've had to switch out to geared.  And I agree, not a LW.  Good luck with the auction, and post back here when you get it.

Oct 15, 2019 - 10:24:47 PM

319 posts since 1/30/2019

Thanks @dsmoke and all. I have asked for a photo inside the back, but not got anything back yet.
Fingers crossed ......

Oct 23, 2019 - 1:29:42 PM

319 posts since 1/30/2019

So, I won the Vega, and it is a Professional. Haven't got it yet, when I have I'll post some pictures when I get it. Neck brace is missing, any one in the UK got a spare Vega pattern neck brace for sale?
The resonator needs some work, but other than the neck brace it all looks fine.
Can't wait.....

Edited by - Andyrhydycreuau on 10/23/2019 13:33:00

Oct 23, 2019 - 2:15:44 PM

2257 posts since 4/29/2012

Oct 23, 2019 - 2:28:49 PM

319 posts since 1/30/2019

quote:
Originally posted by AndrewD

Stewmac sell them and they ship to the UK.

 

https://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_Parts/All_Hardware_and_Parts_by_Instrument/Banjo_Parts/Banjo_Hooks_and_Hardware/Dowel_Stick_Hardware.html

And BrownDog

https://www.browndogbanjos.co.uk/banjo-dowel-hardware-157-c.asp
 


Hi Andrew,

Thanks for that. Didn't think anyone would still make them....

Andy


Oct 23, 2019 - 9:48:57 PM

10440 posts since 10/27/2006

It's a Vegaphone Professional in need of TLC and a new head. If using a plastic head, the correct size is 10 15/16".

Although spec'd for high crown, I use Medium crown heads exclusively. If it doesn't pull down quite enough, gentle warming with a hair dryer does the trick. Wyatt Fawley posted that trick years ago claiming that he could seat a low crown Fibreskyn that way. I've never been that brave or patient.

I bet the original, square brass flesh hoop is in there. This lets you mount your own skin head. Not that hard.

Do not use a screw driver on the center screw or you'll chew it up. The correct tool costs 1¢ and looks just like this:

 

extra points for having one the same vintage as the banjo. If you need more leverage, grip the penny with a pair of pliers.

Edited by - mikehalloran on 10/23/2019 21:51:18

Nov 7, 2019 - 8:33:28 PM
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319 posts since 1/30/2019

Nov 7, 2019 - 8:40:59 PM

12280 posts since 10/30/2008

Love that deep PLUNK. Nice picking and singing. Congrats on a nice find.

Nov 8, 2019 - 12:31:17 AM

319 posts since 1/30/2019

quote:
Originally posted by The Old Timer

Love that deep PLUNK. Nice picking and singing. Congrats on a nice find.


Thanks Dick. Nobody really warned me just how loud a tubaphone is! I love it.

Andy

Nov 8, 2019 - 2:19:41 AM

m06

England

8022 posts since 10/5/2006

Your new banjo has a lovely resonance. Is that GDAE? Or are you tuned down at all?

Edited by - m06 on 11/08/2019 02:21:33

Nov 8, 2019 - 3:28:19 AM

319 posts since 1/30/2019

quote:
Originally posted by m06

Your new banjo has a lovely resonance. Is that GDAE? Or are you tuned down at all?


Cheers Mike, appreciate the feedback.

It's tuned in open 5ths, yes, but low. About FCGD.

Thanks again,

Andy

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