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Too much bluegrass? (Steve Martin Prize)

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Sep 18, 2019 - 2:37:43 AM
3079 posts since 7/28/2015

The Steve Martin prize is considering shutting down because they have too many entries?
apnews.com/368ca7c55c7147dcbc5...83a0a03f2

Edited by - Bill Rogers on 09/20/2019 00:01:35

Sep 18, 2019 - 7:51:43 AM
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RioStat

USA

5184 posts since 10/12/2009

Have you been to a Bluegrass Festival lately...? 

I went to the Mansfield JamFest (Mansfield OH)  in August, and if 90% of the banjo pickers (not to mention the  flat-pickin' guitar players, and dobro players, and mandolin pickers, and fiddle players, and lead doghouse bass breaks) didn't knock your socks off, then walking around campsites all nite was incredible...young people from 10-12 yrs old on up just playing incredible music..til 3,4, 5:00am. The majority of them being "local" (Ohio, W Va, PA, KY), on stage and in the campsites. 

I believe Steve Martin is basically just saying that are just so many "technically proficient, advanced, and complex" pickers out there, that's it's just too difficult to determine "who's best".

I never gave a hoot about banjo "competitions", awards, etc....anyway. Just way too subjective, trying to say who is better than who.

Sep 19, 2019 - 9:18:25 AM

RB3

USA

676 posts since 4/12/2004

It could be that what's needed is a good, cut-throat, winner-take-all banjo contest wherein the winner of the contest receives the $50,000 prize.

Sep 19, 2019 - 10:10:16 AM

534 posts since 8/14/2018

quote:
Originally posted by RioStat

Have you been to a Bluegrass Festival lately...? 

I believe Steve Martin is basically just saying that are just so many "technically proficient, advanced, and complex" pickers out there, that's it's just too difficult to determine "who's best".


In particular, too time consuming for people who have other busy professional careers to worry about. I mean, we had a thread about it, and came up with more than a couple dozen possible contenders without breaking a sweat. And considering that the prize so far has covered a fairly wide range of banjo styles, it could be a nontrivial amount of time reviewing recordings--for all the judges. Then coordinating everything with the committee is kind of a pain (I did this once for a literary award--it's quite a hassle).

Sep 19, 2019 - 7:32:21 PM
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2191 posts since 12/31/2005

If the problem is too many proficient players, they can give the award to me.

Sep 19, 2019 - 7:39:40 PM

10709 posts since 6/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by prooftheory

The Steve Martin prize is considering shutting down because they have too many entries?
apnews.com/368ca7c55c7147dcbc5...83a0a03f2


That's not what the article says. And it's not possible, anyway. There is no entry, application or outside nomination process for the Steve Martin award. It's decided  by Steve and his advisory board and is bestowed upon the recipient totally by surprise.

Sep 19, 2019 - 8:30:53 PM
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200 posts since 5/9/2017

quote:
Originally posted by RioStat

Have you been to a Bluegrass Festival lately...? 

I went to the Mansfield JamFest (Mansfield OH)  in August, and if 90% of the banjo pickers (not to mention the  flat-pickin' guitar players, and dobro players, and mandolin pickers, and fiddle players, and lead doghouse bass breaks) didn't knock your socks off, then walking around campsites all nite was incredible...young people from 10-12 yrs old on up just playing incredible music..til 3,4, 5:00am. The majority of them being "local" (Ohio, W Va, PA, KY), on stage and in the campsites. 

I believe Steve Martin is basically just saying that are just so many "technically proficient, advanced, and complex" pickers out there, that's it's just too difficult to determine "who's best".

I never gave a hoot about banjo "competitions", awards, etc....anyway. Just way too subjective, trying to say who is better than who.


I went to Mansfield too! It was my first time going, and I had a great time. This was the first year that I went to any Ohio festivals, and I made the mistake of wearing my U of M sweatshirt all day at Mansfield. It's dangerous to go into enemy territory wearing the ol' maize and blue! just kidding... But I got to jam with some real good pickers who were above my level, which is always fun. 

Sep 20, 2019 - 12:05:03 AM

Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

23454 posts since 6/25/2005

Sep 20, 2019 - 5:44:32 AM
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bill t

USA

214 posts since 12/14/2012

Shouldn't this topic be moved to "Other Banjo-Related Topics".
How is the Steve Martin banjo prize not banjo related?

Edited by - bill t on 09/20/2019 05:48:34

Sep 21, 2019 - 4:33:04 AM
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1214 posts since 1/31/2011

quote:
Originally posted by RioStat

Have you been to a Bluegrass Festival lately...? 

I went to the Mansfield JamFest (Mansfield OH)  in August, and if 90% of the banjo pickers (not to mention the  flat-pickin' guitar players, and dobro players, and mandolin pickers, and fiddle players, and lead doghouse bass breaks) didn't knock your socks off, then walking around campsites all nite was incredible...young people from 10-12 yrs old on up just playing incredible music..til 3,4, 5:00am. The majority of them being "local" (Ohio, W Va, PA, KY), on stage and in the campsites. 

I believe Steve Martin is basically just saying that are just so many "technically proficient, advanced, and complex" pickers out there, that's it's just too difficult to determine "who's best".

I never gave a hoot about banjo "competitions", awards, etc....anyway. Just way too subjective, trying to say who is better than who.


I need to get out from under my rock. I live in Columbus and didn't know this event even took place!

Sep 21, 2019 - 6:43:15 AM
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RioStat

USA

5184 posts since 10/12/2009

Here Disco Kid Frank, I'll make you feel even worse.......there was another JamFest in Piketon the week after Mansfield ! devil

Sep 22, 2019 - 8:15:52 AM

1214 posts since 1/31/2011

Twist the knife, Scott, twist the knife.

Sep 24, 2019 - 6:53:21 AM

3079 posts since 7/28/2015

quote:
Originally posted by bill t

Shouldn't this topic be moved to "Other Banjo-Related Topics".
How is the Steve Martin banjo prize not banjo related?


I agree.  This should have been in Other Banjo-Related.   I put it in the wrong thread.  This one should have been locked and the other one kept open.

Oct 2, 2019 - 10:56:40 PM

1605 posts since 4/10/2005

I suspect there's more to this. More fantastic players should make it easier to keep the prize going---with only a few, you'd run out of worthy candidates to give it to. Additionally, the point of this award wasn't only about technique or virtuosity--it was about unique creative contributions, or a lifetime body of work. Something else is afoot here.

Oct 3, 2019 - 8:18:49 PM

127 posts since 1/2/2019

Ok, I live in Columbus too. Where can I go to learn what festivals will be going on next summer here - I'd love to go to some.

Nov 13, 2019 - 12:08:48 PM

2191 posts since 12/31/2005

quote:
Originally posted by nightingale

Ok, I live in Columbus too. Where can I go to learn what festivals will be going on next summer here - I'd love to go to some.


Subscribe to Bluegrass Today and check its events page   When you go to the site, a splash screen should appear for you to enter your email, etc.  

Nov 13, 2019 - 12:15:38 PM
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461 posts since 2/6/2018

Soapbox time! How about the Steve Martin prize actually goes to an underprivileged player who could really the funds to fully realize their talent? Send themselves to school. Help their community in some way through bluegrass.

NAH....that'll never happen.

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