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Ken Burns special - Country - kickoff at the Opry

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Sep 10, 2019 - 1:26:11 PM
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Did anyone see this on PBS?
They talked about Earl Scruggs for a while, then played a short bluegrass set - with no banjo! Weird. Even if some guy didn't show up you might think that in Nashville they could find a sub...

Sep 10, 2019 - 6:39:27 PM

2559 posts since 11/15/2003

Hey, Larry,
There has been some thread drift on the big family bluegrass thread about this....in name...Me!
I liked it, and think the Ken Burns documentary is going to do more for Bluegrass than Bluegrass can do for its self!

I get what your saying about no banjo...other than Rihanna Giddens claw hammer and the guy from the old crow medicine show and his do banjo or what ever he was playing.

Justin Moses is a good banjo man and was playing what i call "textured banjo" on Uncle pen and a couple of others, but mainly worked out on dobro. He is very talented, and a good utility man.
But your right as far as it scratching a bluegrass itch...didnt really do it huh?

My take away good feeling was in the video footage and commentary by Ken Burns in the fact that he said "it all started with a fiddle and a banjo" and i think if we all can just be patient through these next couple of months, while this what looks to be, a great documentary coming forth, it will pay off for Bluegrass, in ways that we've never seen in it's history...at least that is my hopes!

I'm still trying to figure out if that was Terry Smith of the rascals playing upright bass in the house band, but i'm starting to think not. But there certainly was a good number of great bluegrass players on the stage, even if there wasn't that much bluegrass played, it was certainly heralded !

Warp!

Sep 10, 2019 - 8:20:13 PM

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Bluegrass or not, anytime Paul Franklin takes the stage, I’m all ears!

All the best.
Brian Saulsman

Sep 11, 2019 - 6:24:14 PM

870 posts since 3/14/2003

Yeah Laurence,
I kinda wandered into it a couple of nites ago and I really enjoyed it. It was kinda all over the map, but the music was pretty good.
I was almost sure that I saw my good friend Mike Harrison in the audience - as always, he's way ahead of me in all things roots music...

Sep 12, 2019 - 4:26:31 AM

O.D.

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3349 posts since 10/29/2003

quote:
Originally posted by warpdrive

Hey, Larry,
There has been some thread drift on the big family bluegrass thread about this....in name...Me!
I liked it, and think the Ken Burns documentary is going to do more for Bluegrass than Bluegrass can do for its self!

I get what your saying about no banjo...other than Rihanna Giddens claw hammer and the guy from the old crow medicine show and his do banjo or what ever he was playing.

Justin Moses is a good banjo man and was playing what i call "textured banjo" on Uncle pen and a couple of others, but mainly worked out on dobro. He is very talented, and a good utility man.
But your right as far as it scratching a bluegrass itch...didnt really do it huh?

My take away good feeling was in the video footage and commentary by Ken Burns in the fact that he said "it all started with a fiddle and a banjo" and i think if we all can just be patient through these next couple of months, while this what looks to be, a great documentary coming forth, it will pay off for Bluegrass, in ways that we've never seen in it's history...at least that is my hopes!

I'm still trying to figure out if that was Terry Smith of the rascals playing upright bass in the house band, but i'm starting to think not. But there certainly was a good number of great bluegrass players on the stage, even if there wasn't that much bluegrass played, it was certainly heralded !

Warp!


L.O.L.   great comment Warp     Funny ,but likely true

 

Everett

Sep 12, 2019 - 5:15:05 AM

5252 posts since 10/13/2007

Question for Warp and all: How do you know what Ken Burn's documentary will do? It has not been premiered yet has it?
Ken

Sep 12, 2019 - 5:43:50 AM
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Ken,
Most of what i think the documentary will do, or i hope it does, for my part, is mostly based on "theory" and from what we have seen based on what Ken Burns himself has previewed to us thus far, in the form of his video footage, and the personalities he choose both in the film and on stage, and in the personalities and musicians in the Live From The Ryman show!

First, although i don't have the years on me that yourself and a few others here on the hangout have, much like the people talked about in some of the footage thus far, my heritage and DNA and to some extent, my family history, is exactly like that of the history described in what Ken Burns is presenting, so....it calls to me, and stirs me, and i have a plethora of friends who have been calling me, and know my history, that feel the same way.

There are many, many, people, who remember what real country music, and bluegrass, and mountain, and folk, and blues, were, and they feel let down by Nashville and L.A. and other big music capitals, and what is coming out of the places now just isn't doing for anybody over 30 years old.....so that means there are a hell of a lot of people left wondering...."what the hell is the crap"!

Ken Burns himself, isn't a spring chicken, and probably...(at least this is my theory) has a personal reason for why he choose this and the fact is...so far, what he has presented doesn't resemble the crap we are subjected too today, but what we, and are mom's and dads, and grandparents grew up on, so that tends to make me believe that this is going to be a wake up call to the establishment in power in Nashville, and kind of "reckoning" as to say "hey you guys remember this?" this is what moved a nation, and it was good, and we want to hear this again!

These are my hopes....are they valid? Maybe...we will see, but so far, i like the direction it is going.

Warp!

Sep 12, 2019 - 6:01:33 AM

5252 posts since 10/13/2007

Warp,
Interesting. Sure hope you are right. It would be refreshing to see a good documentary like this.

Sep 12, 2019 - 6:09:41 AM

O.D.

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3349 posts since 10/29/2003

If history is any indicator this program likely will entice interest in Bluegrass as previous movies and shows have done.
We all know the names and titles.

Everett

Sep 12, 2019 - 12:48:55 PM

5452 posts since 3/6/2006

Ken Burns is no fool and he quickly realized that country music is not just about 'working people' (code for rednecks) but the reality is far more complex than that. He is the greatest at unpacking these complexities. And bluegrass was called country music before the hippies discovered it and called it bluegrass.
btw did you know that Vince Gill (who was almost the house band in that show) started out with Byron B and playing bluegrass banjo? He didn't even sing back then!

Sep 12, 2019 - 1:08:28 PM

2559 posts since 11/15/2003

Larry,
I did know that about vince, his bluegrass band (i think i heard him say) once opened for some rockers like "Kiss"?

Anyway, my ex-cousin-in law Gary Murray has played fiddle and sang tenor(yes tenor) for vince at several venues as well as playing for Patty Loveless, and Dolly, and these last few years, he' been with Darius Rucker (he's the long haired blonde fiddle player on the wagon wheel video).

By hook or crook, i've had a lot of inside knowledge to the workings and goings on in Nashville for a great number of years.

Warp!

Sep 12, 2019 - 1:48 PM
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wow - ex-cousin-in law. I'm still trying to get my head around that.

Sep 12, 2019 - 2:05:30 PM
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Hmmm....cousin in law ...??




Edited by - chuckv97 on 09/12/2019 14:05:57

Sep 12, 2019 - 2:07:56 PM

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btw, I liked seeing Marty do the G run , almost with his tongue stickin’ out in concentration, in “Uncle Pen”.

Edited by - chuckv97 on 09/12/2019 14:08:35

Sep 12, 2019 - 3:29:14 PM
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Ok guys,

Ya'll new i was a real hillbilly, bring on the inbreeder jokes, i've heard em all before!

Warp!

Sep 12, 2019 - 4:47:12 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

btw, I liked seeing Marty do the G run , almost with his tongue stickin’ out in concentration, in “Uncle Pen”.


He was concentrating on keeping that exotic animal on his head.

Sep 12, 2019 - 4:54:32 PM

O.D.

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quote:
Originally posted by Laurence Diehl
quote:
Originally posted by chuckv97

btw, I liked seeing Marty do the G run , almost with his tongue stickin’ out in concentration, in “Uncle Pen”.


He was concentrating on keeping that exotic animal on his head.


Sep 12, 2019 - 4:55 PM

chuckv97

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Ya.... Marty & Ricky ....




Sep 12, 2019 - 4:55:25 PM
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O.D.

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yes @  laurence

Edited by - O.D. on 09/12/2019 16:57:18

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