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Aug 25, 2019 - 7:05:30 AM
1200 posts since 2/10/2013

Andrew Luck "packed it in". Due to ongoing physical problems he will no longer play football. He did graduate from Stanford University with some type of engineering degree so we may not see him around football activities. I always thought he had a lot of class and until plagued by injures, and was an outstanding quarterback.

As infractions become more and more frequent, and more controversial, football is becoming less enjoyable. Years ago an Englishmen remarked American football was too rough to be called a game, but not rough enough to be a fight.

A quick question. If football wants to protect players, why don't the rules provide enough time for punt returners to catch the ball AND lower their head and look upfield before they get "creamed" ?

Aug 25, 2019 - 7:35:30 AM

chuckv97

Canada

42655 posts since 10/5/2013

Tough to hang’em up at 29, but he’s making the right call, imho. FWIW, here are the rule differences for punt returns between CFL & NFL rules:
“In American football, if a punt returner sees that, in his judgment, he will be unable to advance the ball after catching it, he may signal for a fair catch by waving his hand in the air, and forgo the attempt to advance. If he makes this signal, the opposing team must allow him to attempt to catch the ball cleanly; if he is interfered with, the team covering the kick will be penalized fifteen yards. In contrast, there is no fair catch rule in Canadian football: instead no player from the kicking team, except the kicker or any player who was behind him when he kicked the ball, may approach within five yards of the ball until it has been touched by an opponent. If they do, a "no yards" penalty is called against the kicking team. Penalties for "no yards" calls vary on whether the ball made contact with the ground or not. The penalty is 5 yards if the ball has bounced and 15 if the ball is caught in the air.” - Wikipedia

Aug 25, 2019 - 7:40:17 AM

2578 posts since 7/28/2015

Some stats from fivethirtyeight:
fivethirtyeight.com/features/f...so-early/

Aug 25, 2019 - 8:08:38 AM

2763 posts since 9/13/2018

That’s really something Dick! I think it’s possible we’ll see more early retirements due to injuries, or fear of concussions. Andrew will be missed for sure. The ex- steeler Isaac Redman retired early for just that reason.

Aug 25, 2019 - 1:06:51 PM
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rinemb

USA

11513 posts since 5/24/2005

They are circulating on another new helmet. Hope it helps. Especially for the youth. Brad

Aug 25, 2019 - 1:14:18 PM

794 posts since 11/17/2018

Helmets only protect so much...the rest of the body takes a beating as well.

The game is now faster, the players bigger and stronger than ever.

Rule changes have been made to protect players, but in the end, it's football.

A better offensive line would have likely prolonged his career...which didn't improve until last year, when AL was named Comeback Player of the Year.

By then, the damage was already done.

Edited by - OldNavyGuy on 08/25/2019 13:26:19

Aug 25, 2019 - 5:55:15 PM

Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

22217 posts since 6/25/2005

Also to consider—aside from the money he’s earned, Luck has a Stanford degree and a family that does not need to rely on him for support. Not true for all players who might want to retire early.

Aug 25, 2019 - 6:51:57 PM

8806 posts since 2/22/2007

He is a class act, it's the right move at this time, and I wish him well.

Aug 25, 2019 - 8:43:58 PM
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8881 posts since 1/15/2005

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Hauser

Andrew Luck "packed it in". Due to ongoing physical problems he will no longer play football. He did graduate from Stanford University with some type of engineering degree so we may not see him around football activities. I always thought he had a lot of class and until plagued by injures, and was an outstanding quarterback.

As infractions become more and more frequent, and more controversial, football is becoming less enjoyable. Years ago an Englishmen remarked American football was too rough to be called a game, but not rough enough to be a fight.

A quick question. If football wants to protect players, why don't the rules provide enough time for punt returners to catch the ball AND lower their head and look upfield before they get "creamed" ?


I believe his degree is in Architecture, not a "casual" subject that many football players major in.  Therefore, I know he was a serious student with a passion for something other than football.  Starting a career (supposedly in architecture) at age 29, with probably 20 mil or so in the bank in a field that you love is not a bad gig.  He is a class guy and I hope he does well.

Aug 27, 2019 - 9:33:49 AM

4625 posts since 9/5/2006

he has made about 97 million since he came into the league in salary so i guess he's ok. but he was smart about getting out while he can walk.




terry m

Aug 27, 2019 - 10:12:32 AM
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8thpol

USA

5444 posts since 3/3/2005

Kidney Laceration, torn cartilage, torn abdominal, torn labrum , calf and ankle injuries.......and they booed him at pre season game when news broke. Not cool

Aug 27, 2019 - 8:05:12 PM
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I don't follow football, but I saw the clip where people booed him.

I try not to hate anybody, but when people BOO a person who is quitting a job which has caused him CHRONIC PAIN, and the job is simply to provide AMUSEMENT for those doing the booing....
Where's a selective, target-specific Ebola virus when I really want to spray one on a crowd?

Aug 27, 2019 - 8:08:54 PM

2578 posts since 7/28/2015

What is the correct way as a crowd to express your disappointment that a great player won't be on your team in the upcoming season? There isn't a sad crowd sound other than boo. I have not seen the footage so I don't know.

Edited by - prooftheory on 08/27/2019 20:09:49

Aug 27, 2019 - 8:40:10 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by prooftheory

What is the correct way as a crowd to express your disappointment that a great player won't be on your team in the upcoming season? There isn't a sad crowd sound other than boo. I have not seen the footage so I don't know.


Noooooo instead of boooooo

Edited by - OldNavyGuy on 08/27/2019 20:41:04

Aug 28, 2019 - 4:06:11 AM
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8thpol

USA

5444 posts since 3/3/2005

You stand up and cheer its the most universal sign of appreciation in sports. He would know you are not cheering for his exit .

Aug 28, 2019 - 8:22:22 AM

2578 posts since 7/28/2015

quote:
Originally posted by OldNavyGuy
quote:
Originally posted by prooftheory

What is the correct way as a crowd to express your disappointment that a great player won't be on your team in the upcoming season? There isn't a sad crowd sound other than boo. I have not seen the footage so I don't know.


Noooooo instead of boooooo

 


While I think this would be a good solution, I don't think people as a whole know to do this.   

Aug 28, 2019 - 8:24:37 AM

1200 posts since 2/10/2013

As far as "class" goes, the NFL has gone steadily downhill. When asked about which team had the best baseball fans, Pete Rose said "St. Louis". When asked why, his reply was "The fans appreciate outstanding play, regardless of which team performs it". What I am about to write will have some people laughing and others disbelieving. I am almost sure that at one time, a team could be penalized for inappropriate fan behavior.

Years back a coach yelled "You are blind Ref". The ref penalized his team 15 yards, turned to the coach and said "Maybe I can see things better from here".

BTW, I am 99% sure tacklers had to allow a punt returner to take several steps before being tackled. Time enough to secure the ball, lower his head to see oncoming tacklers, and start proceeding forward. I do not know how rescinding this rule benefits the health of punt returners.

Aug 28, 2019 - 8:32:48 AM

1772 posts since 1/16/2010

How about the “fair catch” rule? Can’t the punt returner make the decision for himself whether he wants to catch the ball and attempt forward yardage at the risk of being creamed...or simply wave his hand and catch the ball without anybody laying a finger on him?

Aug 28, 2019 - 11:35:59 AM

794 posts since 11/17/2018

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Hauser


BTW, I am 99% sure tacklers had to allow a punt returner to take several steps before being tackled. Time enough to secure the ball, lower his head to see oncoming tacklers, and start proceeding forward. I do not know how rescinding this rule benefits the health of punt returners.


What does this have to do with Andrew Luck?

Aug 28, 2019 - 11:44:51 AM

52164 posts since 12/14/2005
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quote:
Originally posted by prooftheory

What is the correct way as a crowd to express your disappointment that a great player won't be on your team in the upcoming season? There isn't a sad crowd sound other than boo. I have not seen the footage so I don't know.


It would be NICE tro hear  several thousand people chanting

"PLEASE DON'T GO!  PLEASE DON'T GO!  PLEASE DON'T GO! "

Aug 29, 2019 - 11:49:57 PM

4625 posts since 9/5/2006

quote:
Originally posted by mike gregory
quote:
Originally posted by prooftheory

What is the correct way as a crowd to express your disappointment that a great player won't be on your team in the upcoming season? There isn't a sad crowd sound other than boo. I have not seen the footage so I don't know.


It would be NICE tro hear  several thousand people chanting

"PLEASE DON'T GO!  PLEASE DON'T GO!  PLEASE DON'T GO! "


yeah i used to hear that when i was playing banjo alot !!!!!       you believe me ,, don't you ?

 

 

 

 

 

terry m

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