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Aug 21, 2019 - 1:02:38 PM

banjonz

New Zealand

10736 posts since 6/29/2003

https://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/other/listing-2282132522.htm?rsqid=04a003a06c8e4093bb73756524b9289c-002

This is currently on a website here in NZ. I have seen many Dallas's but never one with this type of neck. To me it looks Asian. Any thoughts??

Aug 21, 2019 - 2:07:29 PM

m06

England

7736 posts since 10/5/2006

I have a fretless Dallas serial #1794 dating probably from the very early 1890’s. The stamp on the pole of the auction banjo looks authentic, though my rim is stamped with the serial number too and that detail seems to be missing from the auction banjo. Dallas also sold banjos with very similar carved heels.

J E Dallas was making banjos at 415 Strand from 1893 to 1914 which would correspond neatly with the serial #5336.

Check the heel carving and tailpiece on this fretted Dallas out, currently for sale at Eagle Music: 

https://www.eaglemusicshop.com/prod/vintage-era-banjos/J-E-Dallas-Vintage-Openback-5-String-Banjo.htm

The hardware looks appropriate to Dallas built too. My two penneth? London made not Asian.

Edited by - m06 on 08/21/2019 14:22:27

Aug 21, 2019 - 2:33:55 PM

rcc56

USA

2208 posts since 2/20/2016

I don't know squat about Dallas banjos, but I have no doubt that the neck on the banjo in your link is not Asian.

The neck appears to be 100 years old. The heel carving is somewhat similar to that on old Stewart banjos from the 1890's, but I am not implying that the banjo had anything to do with Stewart. I wonder if the inlays at the 2nd, 4th, and 6th fret were added later. The fifth string peg is not original.

Others will have to judge the pot and the hardware, but I have never seen an Asian pot that looks anything like the one in your link. It looks like a rather ancient spun-over pot to me.

Edited by - rcc56 on 08/21/2019 14:34:47

Aug 21, 2019 - 5:54:32 PM

banjonz

New Zealand

10736 posts since 6/29/2003

ob, I was thinking only of the neck, not the pot being Asian. Upon reflection, yes the neck is not Asian. We rarely get anything like this here coming up for sale. Its good to be sure of it.

Aug 21, 2019 - 7:05:53 PM
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esmic

Canada

230 posts since 6/27/2011

In the mid to late 1890's, Dallas made banjos such as this one, resembling higher grade Washburns, which were made by Lyon & Healey in Chicago. (Like several other makers, L&H "borrowed" the Stewart peghead shape).

At the time, the premier classic banjoists in London were an American duo, Mays and Hunter, who played - you guessed it - higher grade Washburn banjos. The Dallas resemblance to Washburn capitalized on their popularity.

Edited by - esmic on 08/21/2019 19:06:35

Aug 22, 2019 - 2:37:51 AM

1197 posts since 4/25/2007

That's a particularly fine Dallas. I think it dates from the early 1900's. It has the later adjustable tailpiece. Some had nicely engraved rims and some not. Pretty much original apart from the 5th string tuner, steel strings, a couple of inlays and fancy armrest.
I often wonder what the term "suitable for restoration" covers, pretty much everything i suppose.. I would disagree with the sellers estimate of prices in the UK !

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