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Aug 20, 2019 - 4:52:39 AM
25 posts since 8/20/2019

Just signed up to the Hangout, and I'm looking for some help in my first post here:

I have someone wanting to sell me a Gibson banjo, and they emailed some pictures, I won't see the banjo in person until later in the week.
I don't want to share all the pictures until I have the banjo in my hands, but I am attaching two photos that bother me...

I'd like to know why the rim is a different color than the neck, the rim looks heavily painted or something?

Do y'all notice anything 'fishy' in these two photos?

Thanks for all the help, a friend said this is the place to get help.




Aug 20, 2019 - 5:21:34 AM

1432 posts since 11/27/2005

Looks good to me
Joe

Aug 20, 2019 - 5:22:06 AM

1634 posts since 2/10/2003

quote:
Originally posted by Buckhorn

Just signed up to the Hangout, and I'm looking for some help in my first post here:

I have someone wanting to sell me a Gibson banjo, and they emailed some pictures, I won't see the banjo in person until later in the week.
I don't want to share all the pictures until I have the banjo in my hands, but I am attaching two photos that bother me...

I'd like to know why the rim is a different color than the neck, the rim looks heavily painted or something?

Do y'all notice anything 'fishy' in these two photos?

Thanks for all the help, a friend said this is the place to get help.


Maybe just lighting?  The flange is correct for a modern Gibson and everything else looks ok. 

Aug 20, 2019 - 6:49:13 AM

7 posts since 6/12/2007

I purchased a new RB 250 from a local music store 20 some years ago, and the rim was also a different color, stained lighter than the neck. Still not sure why Gibson did that.

Aug 20, 2019 - 7:54 AM

roydsjr

USA

594 posts since 5/17/2007
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Does it have the serial # stamped in it??

Aug 20, 2019 - 8:10:32 AM

rcc56

USA

2208 posts since 2/20/2016

The most recent Gibson banjo I looked at also had that color rim.
The reason? They sprayed necks one week, and rims a month or two later, and either weren't paying attention to what lacquer they were using, or had run out of the usual color. Welcome to mass production.
You might call this "job security" for Huber, Hatfield, Sullivan, et al.

Edited by - rcc56 on 08/20/2019 08:11:12

Aug 20, 2019 - 8:40:28 AM

rcc56

USA

2208 posts since 2/20/2016

. . . or, they were spraying the backs on a run of Les Paul gold tops, which are a similar color, had a few gallons of lacquer left in the machine, and decided to use it up on some banjo rims that were on the shelf.

I believe that Gibson has automated spray booths that are designed to spray a large number of items in one day. The spray machine tank probably holds many gallons of lacquer.

Aug 20, 2019 - 10:23:10 AM

107 posts since 3/16/2008

Hi, welcome to the site!

If you are trying to make sure that it is a Gibson, I too would double check that it has a serial number stamped in it. There are a lot of Gibson copies that have Gibson stickers inside the rim, so that alone is not enough evidence. People here will know how to interpret the serial number, though, as I don't know anything about that part of it.

With that said, there are Gibson copies out there that sound better than modern Gibsons, so I wouldn't let that be a deal breaker, if the price is right, but I would want to know if I were buying a copy or a Gibson.

All the Best, Ron

Aug 20, 2019 - 10:46:43 AM

3315 posts since 4/27/2004

I can faintly see a SN stamped in the rim, above and to the right of the label. Can't make out what it is though. And I agree that the rim does have an unusual "caramel" look to it. It looks to have had lacquer caked onto it. Perhaps that would not be desirable for the best sound, but who knows?

Aug 20, 2019 - 11:15:48 AM

118 posts since 3/12/2008

I have year 2000 era Earl Scruggs Golden Deluxe that I purchased new from Mandolin Brothers.It doesn’t have the Gibson decal on the rim and I was told by Stan Jay that some were received without it.I guess the sticker installer was on break when the banjo was assembled!

Aug 20, 2019 - 1:25:07 PM

12094 posts since 10/30/2008

What is the thickness of the rim at the bottom, to the nearest 1/16"?

A Gibson of this apparent vintage MUST have a number stamped inside the rim if it's real.

And show us photos of the whole banjo, fore and aft.  Ony "certain" Gibson models were supposed to have a black cap on the bottom of the heel.  Which would also mean a "certain" type of resonator wood/binding/purfling/etc.

Edited by - The Old Timer on 08/20/2019 13:26:41

Aug 20, 2019 - 1:39:22 PM

25 posts since 8/20/2019

Thank y'all for all the replies, I don't have the banjo yet, as I own a farm and can't get away until later this week, and is a 2-hour drive. I'll definitely show all the pictures when I return home with it. I've asked the person to send me full pictures of the banjo. I appreciate all the input here, seems like a good community, and the first time I've ever seen so many banjo players in the same room without playing over top one another! I'll be in touch later this week.

Aug 20, 2019 - 6:50:27 PM

209 posts since 10/23/2010

quote:
Originally posted by Buckhorn

Thank y'all for all the replies, I don't have the banjo yet, as I own a farm and can't get away until later this week, and is a 2-hour drive. I'll definitely show all the pictures when I return home with it. I've asked the person to send me full pictures of the banjo. I appreciate all the input here, seems like a good community, and the first time I've ever seen so many banjo players in the same room without playing over top one another! I'll be in touch later this week.

It'll be a little too late for identifying photos, 'after' you've bought it.

Hope it works out for the best. Good luck


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