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Aug 14, 2019 - 5:58:33 AM
2 posts since 4/5/2019

I have a 1967 Bowtie that I bought a set of Kluson tuners for. Is there a thread that tells how to do this the right way? Or do you have specific advice on this? I’m assuming the letters on the back should be in a certain position? Any help would be great!

Aug 14, 2019 - 6:45:14 AM
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400 posts since 5/19/2018

Brian RT

I have a mid-50’s Bow tie. Took the timers off once to check them out. I don’t know if all Klusons are the same, but if I recall correctly, they are marked on the back with a “B” stamp and a “T” stamp. T stands for treble and they go on the two top strings. B is Bass and goes on strings 3 and 4.

For orientation, look at the attached photo.

If you have the newer repro tuners, I have been told that you may need to note the hole a bit larger to accommodate the new larger shaft.

Ha e fun. These tuners are a handful, but I love them.


 

Aug 14, 2019 - 7:57:21 AM
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12016 posts since 10/30/2008

Hopefully your original screw holes are still there so you don't have to do any drilling! Be gentle in setting those Phillips head screws. If the screws fit loose, put a little broken off piece of toothpick in the hole. Remember to press in the "ferrules" on the face of the peghead, with just thumb pressure, they don't turn or screw in as I remember.

The advice about B (bass) and T (treble) markings on the tuners is important. In use, all these tuners turn in the same direction. If you bought a set that are all Ts, or all Bs, then it doesn't make any difference, and first and second will turn opposite to 3 and 4, like typical tuners do. But don't get your Bs and Ts mixed up!!

You're going to have to get used to the extremely high ratio on these, I think it's either 12:1 or even 16:1. You have to turn them a LOT to move the string very much. They are very "fine" tuners.

My first Mastertone was an early 60s RB 250 and I got very used to these big Klusons, warts and all.

You'll also notice they are heavy.

Aug 14, 2019 - 5:07:03 PM

2631 posts since 5/29/2011

If they are the new Kluson tuners they work somewhat smoother than the old ones do. I have installed two sets on bowtie copies that I built. Notice Alvin's picture that shows which way the stair steps face.

Aug 17, 2019 - 10:27:15 AM

1883 posts since 1/10/2004

I replaced the original set on my 63 bowtie with the new Kluson repros and found them to be virtually perfect replicas. That means they aren't enhanced to work any better, but to me they work fine. Pay attention to the B and T markings as mentioned, but otherwise they should pop in right where the originals are. I cannot remember off hand if I used new ferrules or just left the existing ones, but they should again be virtually identical. (Well, I guess I probably did since the new tuners were chrome instead of nickel). Just press them in.

There is a slight trick to installing the mounting screws through the tabs. Especially when installing into an old pre-existing screw hole in the wooden peg head. Gently place the screw through the tab, lined up over the old hole, and with very gentle pressure using a small screwdriver slowly turn the screw backwards until it "clicks". You're more likely to feel it rather than hear it, as the thread sort of drops into the existing groove, read to be started. Then tighten gently just until firm, but don't overtighten or you'll strip out the screw hole.

Good luck.

Edited by - Bradskey on 08/17/2019 10:27:58

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