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Jul 18, 2019 - 3:38:21 PM
1035 posts since 3/17/2007

I have no money in this game but just stumbled across the following---cut these off for 5th pegs! Even if they're not great!
ebay.com/itm/Durable-4-4-3-4-V...wJ6JdJKL1

Jul 18, 2019 - 3:51:53 PM
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10040 posts since 6/2/2008

Even cheaper: I bought one of these at Harbor Freight.

Still haven't cut it off because I can't figure out how.

Jul 18, 2019 - 4:15:03 PM

2665 posts since 5/29/2011

I have used the Harbor Freight reamer to install bridge pins on an inexpensive guitar with satisfactory results. I don't know that I would use it on a Martin or a guitar of similar value.

Jul 18, 2019 - 4:16:15 PM
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1259 posts since 4/13/2009

quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory

Even cheaper: I bought one of these at Harbor Freight.

Still haven't cut it off because I can't figure out how.


I successfully used a Dremel with a cut-off wheel. 

Jul 18, 2019 - 4:59:38 PM

10040 posts since 6/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by deestexas
I successfully used a Dremel with a cut-off wheel. 

Great!  How long did it take?  I'd like a reality check so I'll know how well I'm doing.

Jul 18, 2019 - 5:50:51 PM
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YWGbanjo

Canada

176 posts since 9/29/2012

I cut a quarter of the way through mine with a hacksaw. Then it slipped out if the vise, fell to the concrete floor, and PING! Nice clean break at the cut.

Jul 18, 2019 - 6:00:01 PM
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1259 posts since 4/13/2009

quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory
quote:
Originally posted by deestexas
I successfully used a Dremel with a cut-off wheel. 

Great!  How long did it take?  I'd like a reality check so I'll know how well I'm doing.


It was several years ago, so I don't remember,  but it did not take a lot of time.  It is important to match the angle and width of a fifth string tuner and don't leave the reamer too long, as it can dig too far into the neck.  As a result, mine ended up fairly short - blades about 3/4 of an inch.  I did shape the blades a bit with a file.   I've used this  on five necks I think.  I start the hole with a drill, then use the reamer for shape.

Jul 18, 2019 - 6:14:47 PM

beegee

USA

21293 posts since 7/6/2005

I scored mine with a new triangle file and put in a vise and tapped it with a hammer. Broke off clean

Jul 18, 2019 - 6:19:59 PM

189 posts since 4/1/2003

Jul 18, 2019 - 6:39:07 PM

10040 posts since 6/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by deestexas
It is important to match the angle and width of a fifth string tuner and don't leave the reamer too long, as it can dig too far into the neck. 

I intend to cut mine off at the point where the shaft is the same diameter as the base of a Gotoh fifth string tuner.  I believe that's going to leave a lot of length, so I'll probably file a line on the shaft as a depth gauge.  I don't know for a fact that the taper exactly matches the base of a tuner.  That would probably be too much to expect.  I'm hoping it's close enough.

Jul 18, 2019 - 8:40:52 PM
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rudy

USA

14370 posts since 3/27/2004

quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory
quote:
Originally posted by deestexas
I successfully used a Dremel with a cut-off wheel. 

Great!  How long did it take?  I'd like a reality check so I'll know how well I'm doing.


The Dremel cut-off wheel is fast and easy.  It takes something like 30 seconds if you don't break a cut-off disk and have to change to a fresh one.

The length of the reamer is NOT important, the starting diameter (as shown in the photo) and angle of the reamer is important.

The reamer that Curt linked to in the original post is a violin peg reamer; vitally important for proper fitting of wooden pegs but not what you generally want for a fifth string tuner.  The fifth string tuners like the Gotoh take the taper that's found on the general purpose hardware store / Harbor Freight reamer.

I have a cutoff 1:30 reamer that I use exclusively for fitting violin pegs at the side of the neck as you would find in a "mountain banjo".

Assorted "banjo" reamers:

Edited by - rudy on 07/18/2019 20:53:50

Jul 22, 2019 - 12:42:14 PM

1035 posts since 3/17/2007

I wasn't thinking reamers for 5th string Tuners: those ( Harbor Freight) have been around. They are definitely not 1:30. I meant for old-time friction pegs: 19th century and Mt banjers. Those are Not easy/cheap to find.

Jul 22, 2019 - 12:59:11 PM
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rudy

USA

14370 posts since 3/27/2004

quote:
Originally posted by cbcarlisle

I wasn't thinking reamers for 5th string Tuners: those ( Harbor Freight) have been around. They are definitely not 1:30. I meant for old-time friction pegs: 19th century and Mt banjers. Those are Not easy/cheap to find.


Agreed!

When I made the cut off 1:30 shown in my photo I dropped something like $25 when International Violin Supply was running a sale on them.  It DID cause me to shed a tiny tear or two when I cut off a brand new reamer to use expressly for fitting violin tuners at the fifth position in the side of the neck.

I like the one you linked a LOT more for doing a "modification".

Jul 22, 2019 - 1:39:45 PM
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DC5

USA

6688 posts since 6/30/2015

quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory

Even cheaper: I bought one of these at Harbor Freight.

Still haven't cut it off because I can't figure out how.


I'm in Harbor Freight all the time, but I've never seen one of these.  Where do I look?

Jul 22, 2019 - 3:23:40 PM
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rudy

USA

14370 posts since 3/27/2004

quote:
Originally posted by DC5
quote:
Originally posted by Old Hickory

Even cheaper: I bought one of these at Harbor Freight.

Still haven't cut it off because I can't figure out how.


I'm in Harbor Freight all the time, but I've never seen one of these.  Where do I look?


It'll set you back a whole $3:

https://www.harborfreight.com/t-handle-reamer-66936.html

My local HF has them hanging up on the wall with other "machinist's tools".

As a note of interest, Reamers are HARD.  If the reamer is any quality at all it will strip the teeth off a hacksaw blade and quickly dull file edges or teeth.  Use the cut off wheel method.

Edited by - rudy on 07/22/2019 15:27:14

Jul 22, 2019 - 4:35:54 PM

10040 posts since 6/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by DC5
I'm in Harbor Freight all the time, but I've never seen one of these.  Where do I look?

Thanks to Rudy for answering. I didn't remember where it was. I probably asked an employee to find it.

Jul 23, 2019 - 5:30:47 AM
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DC5

USA

6688 posts since 6/30/2015

quote:
Originally posted by rudy
 

It'll set you back a whole $3:

https://www.harborfreight.com/t-handle-reamer-66936.html

My local HF has them hanging up on the wall with other "machinist's tools".

As a note of interest, Reamers are HARD.  If the reamer is any quality at all it will strip the teeth off a hacksaw blade and quickly dull file edges or teeth.  Use the cut off wheel method.


With my 20% off coupon it'll only be $2.40 wink

Jul 25, 2019 - 5:42:21 AM
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DC5

USA

6688 posts since 6/30/2015

I ordered one of the reamers shown in the OP. Today I received an email saying that the order was being shipped.

Estimated delivery:
Thu, Aug 08 - Thu, Sep 19

What is their shipping method? Carrier pigeons? I guess the drone idea fell through.

Jul 25, 2019 - 7:13:26 AM
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rudy

USA

14370 posts since 3/27/2004

quote:
Originally posted by DC5

I ordered one of the reamers shown in the OP. Today I received an email saying that the order was being shipped.

Estimated delivery:
Thu, Aug 08 - Thu, Sep 19

What is their shipping method? Carrier pigeons? I guess the drone idea fell through.


It's not unusual for eBay purchases shipped directly from China to list a delivery date of 4 to 6 weeks.  It's part of the eBay shopping experiance to read the fine print.

Jul 27, 2019 - 4:54 PM

1035 posts since 3/17/2007

I haven't received mine yet, either. OP curt

Jul 29, 2019 - 9:38:35 AM

135 posts since 8/11/2015

This StewMac banjo 5th peg reamer I bought is only ever so slightly too long/narrow for the Gototh tuners I use (not counting the sharkfin). Still that small difference produces a hole which is a lot deeper than desired. Had to fill the bottom of it the last time.

So I didn’t dare use it for the hole I drilled today because it would have gone into the truss rod channel. If I had a Dremel available I would attempt to cut a tiny bit of it off like suggested here. Although it is very hard steel. What I did today tho, was to simply use a couple of different size drill bits and a small woodcarving knife. The fit didn’t come out quite as neat as using the reamer.


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