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Jun 25, 2019 - 2:27:05 AM
5 posts since 6/25/2019

Good day,

I hope someone can assist in identifying this banjo.

When I bought it 7/8 years ago, I was told it was close to 100 years old. Not sure about that...

I know it's not a Bluegrass Banjo.

No plaque or name, except for "Grover Patent Presto".

Any more info and value to this instrument would be great!

Thanks in advance
Francelle


Jun 25, 2019 - 3:06:35 AM

1166 posts since 4/25/2007

Lange maybe. Have you ever removed the resonator ? Maybe there's some information there. Post a photo of the back of banjo with the resonator removed. The tailpiece is probably worth more than you paid for the banjo they are very sort after.

Jun 25, 2019 - 3:53:31 AM

5 posts since 6/25/2019

Thank you so much, will do and get back to you. Never removed anything, so will have my husband check it out.

Jun 25, 2019 - 4:01:34 AM
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csacwp

USA

2219 posts since 1/15/2014

I don't think this was made by Lange; It appears to be an English-made instrument inspired by one. Possibly Rushworth & Draper in Liverpool who made the Ardetone line of Paramount copies.

Jun 25, 2019 - 4:34:12 AM

1741 posts since 12/31/2005

Is the round wood inlay in the headstock replacing a medallion? Looks like some plastic wood repair along the side.

Jun 25, 2019 - 4:49:20 AM
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2 posts since 1/26/2011

I think your banjo is a Emile Grimshaw banjo from the 1930s built in England .

Jun 25, 2019 - 6:56:16 AM

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Wow! Interesting!

Jun 25, 2019 - 7:16:52 AM
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Helix1

USA

254 posts since 4/17/2019

It IS a bluegrass Archtop, I would love to hear this banjo AGAIN. It reminds me of my '40 Chevy.

 

Lange was more advanced. 

Edited by - Helix1 on 06/25/2019 07:17:23

Jun 25, 2019 - 7:33:23 AM
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8696 posts since 1/15/2005

I would love to have the tailpiece!

Jun 25, 2019 - 7:53 AM

1749 posts since 1/4/2009

can you post some pictures of the inside? im interested to see the tone ring / coordinator rod construciton

Jun 25, 2019 - 8:52:06 AM

1166 posts since 4/25/2007

I hadn't thought of it being English. The inlay, resonator and skirt is wrong for an Ardetone. But Grimshaw is certainly a good suggestion.

Jun 25, 2019 - 9:08:34 AM
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51700 posts since 12/14/2005

Is that resonator CARVED?

Jun 25, 2019 - 9:45:37 AM

5 posts since 6/25/2019

Thank you for all the feedback!! So interesting! How do I open it to see inside? Dont want to cause any damage to it.
It looks like the wood inlay was done in place of something else. But I wouldn't know l, hence my appreciation for all your feedback. Will see if we can open it and get back to you with more pictures.

Jun 25, 2019 - 12:13:21 PM

jwold

USA

1057 posts since 7/21/2004

That is a lovely banjo...

Jun 25, 2019 - 1:36:38 PM

stanger

USA

7200 posts since 9/29/2004

I think it's English. The round wooden 'medallion' may be a home-made replacement for a metal one that came off somehow.

The Clifford Essex banjos had a similar plaque peghead inlay, but it was shield-shaped. Ii see a lot of resemblance to an Essex, but a lot of differences, too. The pot looks Essex-like to me.

There were quite a few English makers, and while many of them were influenced by the American banjo makers, they all did their own thing with the banjo.

Here's an Essex Paragon:
hangoutstorage.com/banjohangou...54971.jpg

regards,
stanger

Jun 25, 2019 - 9:25:03 PM
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19 posts since 2/18/2004

Looks similar to this Grimshaw banjo on the classic banjo website:

https://classic-banjo.ning.com/video/a-twilight-melody-composed-by-emile-grimshaw

Jun 26, 2019 - 12:54:07 AM

1166 posts since 4/25/2007

quote:
Originally posted by nickll

Looks similar to this Grimshaw banjo on the classic banjo website:

https://classic-banjo.ning.com/video/a-twilight-melody-composed-by-emile-grimshaw

Good work Nickll that's confirmed it. 

Jun 28, 2019 - 10:16:33 PM

stanger

USA

7200 posts since 9/29/2004

You nailed it, Nick!
That's what I love about the Hangout.

This is the place that the obscure is revealed, and very often the revelation has pleasant surprises of its own that come with it!

I both liked the banjo and the guy who played the tune that was written for the banjo. By the guy who made the banjo and wrote the song!
Now where else could that happen except on the Banjo Hangout? Amazing. And too cool.
regards,
stanger

Jul 2, 2019 - 3:57:17 AM

5 posts since 6/25/2019

Thank you for everyone's feedback and input, much appreciated! And interesting.
Can we settle on Grimshaw? Any idea what it can be worth?

Jul 3, 2019 - 11:24:28 PM

19 posts since 2/18/2004

Although the medallion is missing, it must be a Grimshaw banjo given the other distinctive features and possibly an Artist model. This is a link to another thread on the classic banjo site with a similar tenor banjo.

https://classic-banjo.ning.com/forum/topics/emile-grimshaw-artist-model-banjo

Jul 3, 2019 - 11:29:25 PM

5 posts since 6/25/2019

Thank you! Probably dumb question, but what is an Artist model?
Thank you for the link, will have a look.

Jul 4, 2019 - 2:47:07 AM

calfskin

England

15 posts since 5/30/2011

francelle i have an mop blank for sale of the same batch also used on some cammeyer zither banjos if you need one !(it pays to advertise )

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