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Jun 12, 2019 - 6:12:48 AM
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blazo

USA

117 posts since 5/16/2017

There's a listing on eBay for a Tubaphone that is exactly the same as a previous listing from the same seller (which sold just a couple days ago). When I saw the original listing, I emailed the seller twice about inspecting the item in person and never got a response. I suspect this is a scam.

Current listing - ebay.com/itm/BANJO-FAIRBANKS-V...wxYRc8Q~m

Previous listing - ebay.com/itm/BANJO-FAIRBANKS-V...cvip=true

Jun 12, 2019 - 7:36:24 AM

203 posts since 2/6/2018

The item says it was re-listed. Maybe the original deal fell through? But you're right, the seller does not have a lot of history on eBay, which is always a red flag. Caveat emptor.

Jun 12, 2019 - 8:27:53 AM

1762 posts since 5/2/2012

Yeah, on ebay you have to be cautious. I see that same thing happening now and again. I was following a used banjo at auction that looked like it was going to sell at a price that was reasonable. Then a few days later, when I checked, the listing was closed, then the following day the same banjo was relisted at a starting bid of twice the original listing had started with. Will be interesting so see if that banjo gets any bids now.

Jun 12, 2019 - 9:43:47 AM

Bill H

USA

1222 posts since 11/7/2010

I was contacted by a seller one time to offer me a banjo that I had lost in the bidding. The original sale had fallen through, so I'm sure that happens. Everybody is transparent on Ebay, so bad buyers stand out as well as bad sellers.

Jun 12, 2019 - 10:11:22 AM

203 posts since 2/6/2018

....and EBay does offer their money back guarantee, which they do stand behind.

Jun 12, 2019 - 10:25:05 AM

264 posts since 3/12/2014

I've been at the bad side of the guarantee...

Buyer returned something to me stating it wasn't as advertised. He took parts off that he needed.

eBay pressured me into accepting the item and giving him is money back.

...Deb

Jun 12, 2019 - 11:13:17 AM

1656 posts since 10/17/2013

quote:
Originally posted by debmurphy1

I've been at the bad side of the guarantee...

Buyer returned something to me stating it wasn't as advertised. He took parts off that he needed.

eBay pressured me into accepting the item and giving him is money back.

...Deb


...Just like the guy who took the original resonator, flange and bridge, off of a Gibson RB-3 which he bought, and then got a refund (not sending back the resonator, flange or bridge) in the “Banjo parts story” topic posted a couple weeks ago.

Jun 12, 2019 - 12:08:31 PM

9736 posts since 6/2/2008

quote:
Originally posted by debmurphy1

I've been at the bad side of the guarantee...

Buyer returned something to me stating it wasn't as advertised. He took parts off that he needed.

eBay pressured me into accepting the item and giving him is money back.


This is a link to the discussion of a similar buyer scam that Luke refers to above.

It's an unconscionable thing for a buyer to do and it's incredible to hear that eBay sided with the dishonest buyer. Did they not understand what happened?

Edited by - Old Hickory on 06/12/2019 12:10:40

Jun 12, 2019 - 12:47:47 PM

mbuk06

England

7510 posts since 10/5/2006

eBay sales can fall through for genuine reasons. The original listing ended on 7 June and today is 11 June; resolving an issue and relisting a failed sale item after only 5 days seems unlikely in my experience because eBay notifications and processes usually work a little slower than that.

There are a variety of safeguards you can employ:

1. ask the seller directly via the Q&A section why their 'sold' item is being offered again (if they are a scammer they will likely take down the item at that point).

2. query the transaction history with eBay.

3. email the seller asking for additional multiple detail photo(s) of a very specific view/feature not already included in the photo list. At least that would reveal whether the seller has access to the banjo he claims to own.

But usually the wise decision is to trust our gut instinct. Not saying this guy is a scammer, but the 'double sale' is certainly suspicious enough to need checking out. And scammers rely on distracting folks common sense by the prospect/bait of an item that appears too good to miss.

Edited by - mbuk06 on 06/12/2019 12:56:34

Jun 12, 2019 - 4:49:39 PM
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blazo

USA

117 posts since 5/16/2017

I asked the seller why he relisted this morning but I haven't gotten a return email yet. Same thing happened when previously listed, sent the seller a couple emails and never heard back. The seller did send additional pics after I let him/her know that the pics in the listing were very poor. Seller sent me more poor pics.

I also alerted eBay to the possibility of a fraudulent listing. The listing is still up so perhaps eBay decided all is well.

This one smells bad to me.

Jun 12, 2019 - 7:31:18 PM

rwshade

USA

67 posts since 4/4/2010

If your item hasn't sold at the end of the offer period, EBay relists it.

Jun 13, 2019 - 3:06:42 AM

264 posts since 3/12/2014

eBay wants the buyer to have a positive experience and will go overboard to make that happen.

I had a couple of experiences like the one i described. But, I have to say that there were more positive than negative. The guy buying his new bride a gift was priceless. I got emails for weeks after the auction was final. (She loved her mandolin.)

...Deb

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