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Feb 11, 2019 - 7:49:51 PM

Bill Rogers (Moderator)

USA

21753 posts since 6/25/2005

I know this is a strange question because obviously everyone on here is internet connected. ... Does anyone know of a laptop that comes with alternate setup and operating instructions for use unconnected to the net? My sister lives in the boonies where she can’t get internet service—even from a satellite company. She wants a laptop to listen to cds, play dvds and do word processing—none of which need internet. I am trying to set up a new Dell laptop for her, and it’s all but impossible. Everything is predicated on having an internet connection. I’m ready to send my old one from 2008, which does function off-line. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

Edited by - Bill Rogers on 02/11/2019 19:50:35

Feb 11, 2019 - 8:04:32 PM

230 posts since 4/26/2007

I also cannot get internet at the house, and I do have a older dell laptop that works fine for things like that, but if I ever bring it somewhere with a signal it’ll get stuck tryin to to the 5 million updates I’ve missed out on

Feb 11, 2019 - 8:16:51 PM
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Mooooo

USA

6484 posts since 8/20/2016
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Go someplace with internet for the set-up, have a coffee, then bring her the computer and then she can enjoy it offline. It will work without internet, but if she goes some place with wi-fi she will be able to connect.

Edited by - Mooooo on 02/11/2019 20:18:43

Feb 12, 2019 - 4:57:16 AM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

22566 posts since 8/3/2003

Bill, most laptops have a CD/DVD player, which will take care of that problem. You can purchase a CD for word processing software and that will take care of that problem. All she needs to do is turn the thing on and either listen to music or type on her word processing software.... or do both at the same time. No internet access needed. Just about any laptop should work.

I have an old laptop that you can actually turn the internet on and off.  I don't think they make them any more, but there should be a way to disconnect from any internet access even with a new laptop.

Edited by - Texasbanjo on 02/12/2019 04:59:25

Feb 12, 2019 - 5:16:52 AM
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wizofos

USA

4968 posts since 8/19/2012

Bill, I think that everyone missed your problem. It is not about having internet when she uses it but setting it up for her. As someone said you need to go somewhere that has internet and set it up then disconnect it and give it to her. If she can she needs to go somewhere that has internet, connect and run updates. Only need to do it every few months or so.
To turn off the NIC's (Network Interface Cards) there should be a key with an Icon that looks like a radio antenna. Probably in the upper row of keys possibly on the left side of the keyboard. Since this is a new laptop suggest you call Dell tech support and ask them if you have a problem.
If you are not getting on the internet or don't have access to the internet you only need it to do set up.

Feb 12, 2019 - 5:28:32 AM

phb

Germany

1691 posts since 11/8/2010

If she doesn't have internet, she doesn't need any updates because there is no way she can catch some virus...

Feb 12, 2019 - 6:02:09 AM

John_J

USA

841 posts since 12/23/2007

quote:
Originally posted by phb

If she doesn't have internet, she doesn't need any updates because there is no way she can catch some virus...


I agree - - I have a laptop that is still running Windows 7....

Feb 12, 2019 - 6:14:39 AM
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2363 posts since 8/3/2012

Just about any laptop can be set up with no i-net connection, but all Micro$oft products require an on-line activation.
I would suggest loading an older laptop with Linux (i.e. Ubuntu MATE or Mint). The MATE desktop is very easy to learn & navigate for Windows users. A Linux installation DVD can be purchased (on e-bay, etc.) for under $5.

Feb 12, 2019 - 10:55:49 AM

banjonz

New Zealand

10576 posts since 6/29/2003

I have a Win 8 PC and a Win 8 laptop. The laptop is used only as my Bible. Apart from using the internet to set it up, I do not use it for connecting to it, not even for updates.

Feb 13, 2019 - 5:06:50 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Texasbanjo

Bill, most laptops have a CD/DVD player, which will take care of that problem.


Not any more. CD drives haven't been standard on anything in quite some time. You can still buy external drives, which are cheap.  So your best bet is to buy whatever laptop works for you (runs what you want, is in your budget, etc), then get the drive separately. Getting software on disk will be a problem. There really isn't any. You can order some Linux distros on CD (Mint, as mentioned above), but keeping it up to date will be a pain, as will adding any software from the repositories.

Edited by - MacCruiskeen on 02/13/2019 05:08:35

Feb 13, 2019 - 5:31:37 AM
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Neil Allen

France

741 posts since 6/15/2014

It's probably better to set it up for her from some place where you can get an internet connexion. Once that is done, it will function perfectly well without being connected. Laptops nowadays are fundamentally designed for connectivity and the initial setup procedures will require some kind of interaction over the internet. Trying to get around this is likely to be more trouble than it is worth and you only have to do it once if you are not bothered about software updates.

Feb 13, 2019 - 8:08:10 AM

Texasbanjo (Moderator)

USA

22566 posts since 8/3/2003

MacCruiskeen

Well, you taught this old lady something. I had no idea that newer laptops didn't have a CD drive. I knew my new car didn't have one, but thought that was just an aberration. I have to use a thumb drive in the car if I want to listen to music. Guess I'll have to do the same thing if I ever get a new laptop.

Feb 15, 2019 - 1:01:19 AM
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dr4dpet

USA

602 posts since 2/9/2016

quote:
Originally posted by phb

If she doesn't have internet, she doesn't need any updates because there is no way she can catch some virus...


For anybody doing this, make sure you never accept a thumb drive from frineds with photos, videos, or any other files.

Feb 15, 2019 - 4:19:17 AM

tmercks

USA

629 posts since 3/7/2006

I'm going out on a limb here and guessing you are using Windows 10. Microsoft has set up this operating system this way for the future. You see, in future versions, operating systems will not be licensed to you, but instead, you will be paying a yearly subscription fee. It's where Microsoft is heading. My laptop with W10 still generally works when not connected to the internet, but I have disabled Cortana (in the registry) and a few other things.

For her most practical needs, I'm going out on a limb here and suggesting you change it out if possible to an earlier operating system, such as Windows 7, XP, or something earlier. Maybe even Lynux. Any software that is not so internet dependent. And don't fret too much; when Windows finally retires an earler version, they usually allow it to be posted online for free.

Feb 15, 2019 - 5:21:34 AM

mander

USA

3052 posts since 10/7/2007

quote:
Originally posted by wizofos

Bill, I think that everyone missed your problem. It is not about having internet when she uses it but setting it up for her. As someone said you need to go somewhere that has internet and set it up then disconnect it and give it to her. If she can she needs to go somewhere that has internet, connect and run updates. Only need to do it every few months or so.
To turn off the NIC's (Network Interface Cards) there should be a key with an Icon that looks like a radio antenna. Probably in the upper row of keys possibly on the left side of the keyboard. Since this is a new laptop suggest you call Dell tech support and ask them if you have a problem.
If you are not getting on the internet or don't have access to the internet you only need it to do set up.


Thank you for seeing the problem clearing. It's a problem I have too. Sort of. I suppose, my problem is more paranoia than internet. One used to be able to buy a disc and down load programs. No more. THe only way to get a program now is via the internet. Every time I've put a computer on the internet, it developed viruses. All I want for Christmas is to go back in time and get a computer with a decent word program that isn't infected by the internet.

Feb 15, 2019 - 3:25:52 PM

2220 posts since 4/16/2003

My MacBook Pro will run fine without being hooked to the net.

I'm not sure if the Mac OS can be set up without a minimal net connection, at least for the initial process. Never tried it.

Having said that, newer Macs DO NOT have a built in CD/DVD drive any more. 2012 were the last MacBook Pros (the "non-retina" models) that had them.

But -- once initially set up -- you can turn the wifi off, and the Mac will run all day.
I can't say for the latest versions of MS Office, but there are plenty of other word processors that can be used.

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