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Jan 11, 2019 - 7:57:38 AM
35 posts since 1/23/2017

Hi all,

I hope I'm allowed to ask this question.

What is the worth of a mid 80's Gibson Granada Earl Scruggs reproduction in good condition?

Jan 11, 2019 - 8:34:50 AM
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151 posts since 5/19/2018

Old fingers- you are certainly allowed to ask that question.

I don’t think that anyone can give you any level of an accurate answer without a few good solid detailed pictures.

Also, very helpful would be any further info such as who made the banjo. What parts were used and the like.

There are so many variations involved in pricing, the more info you provide, the more accurate of an answer folks here can give you.

Jan 11, 2019 - 8:38:30 AM

35 posts since 1/23/2017

Sorry I guess I wasn't clear but it's a Gibson reproduction of a prewar Granada from the Gibson custom shop according to the seller.

It's says inside serial 1 of 5 and has an Earl Scruggs signed sticker on the inside of the resonator.

Jan 11, 2019 - 8:41:15 AM

35 posts since 1/23/2017

Here is a picture of the inside.


images.reverb.com/image/upload...hrtnc.jpg

Jan 11, 2019 - 8:48:52 AM
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11444 posts since 10/30/2008

Oldfingers, not to throw cold water on it, but there is something about that photo of the inside of the rim that doesn't seem to ring true to me. I'm not saying it "isn't" what it says, but plaques labels are easy to put in any banjo. That single photo doesn't give me a comfortable feeling though. But I could be wrong!

It would take many more photos of this banjo for folks to give their opinions. Also, there is a member here who has a lot of records of "reissue" Gibsons and was there when the first Granadas were being worked up.

A run of the mill Gibson Granada reissue in very good condition sells for $4000+ in today's market.

Please post as many photos as you can.

Jan 11, 2019 - 8:50:38 AM

35 posts since 1/23/2017

Here is a link to the site that's selling it. Reverb.com

reverb.com/item/17693178-gibso...-80s-gold

Jan 11, 2019 - 8:51:21 AM

35 posts since 1/23/2017

I'd make an offer if that looks legit. But it does seem like a good deal.

Jan 11, 2019 - 9:06:15 AM

35 posts since 1/23/2017

If it's a really good deal, I hope somebody from here doesn't grab it. Haha

Jan 11, 2019 - 9:32:16 AM
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963 posts since 3/27/2008

quote:
Originally posted by Oldfingers

I'd make an offer if that looks legit. But it does seem like a good deal.


If you want it, I hope you get it, Jeffrey.

I just never heard of a 5 series of custom Gibson Earl Scruggs banjos.

If this was a legitimate run, then there should be evidence of the other 4.

Good luck . :)

Jan 11, 2019 - 9:33:09 AM
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963 posts since 3/27/2008

I just checked...  It's been sold.

Did you get it, Jeffrey?

Jan 11, 2019 - 9:36:42 AM

35 posts since 1/23/2017

I did. I hope I made the right call. Haha.
But seriously, I asked the seller and he stated that he bought it 25 years ago and he doesn't really know any other history about it.

Now to somehow get it into the house.....

Jan 11, 2019 - 9:45:46 AM
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963 posts since 3/27/2008

quote:
Originally posted by Oldfingers

I did. I hope I made the right call. Haha.
But seriously, I asked the seller and he stated that he bought it 25 years ago and he doesn't really know any other history about it.

Now to somehow get it into the house.....


Congratulations, Jeffrey.

If he truly purchased it 25 years ago, chances are it is legit.

I just wonder if Gibson made it, or someone 25/30 years ago made a Gibson copy.

One thing in your favor is that 25/30 years ago, I have not heard of banjo builders forging Earl Scruggs signature Gibson labels. The ink on the label does look like Earl's original signature.

(Others in the banjo world 30 years ago would have a better sense of this than I would).

But, my guess is that you picked up a good deal.

Edited by - KD Banjer on 01/11/2019 09:56:18

Jan 11, 2019 - 10:00:33 AM
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144 posts since 8/14/2018

quote:
Originally posted by Oldfingers


Now to somehow get it into the house.....


It should fit through the front door. 

Jan 11, 2019 - 10:01:57 AM
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35 posts since 1/23/2017

It's the "guardwife" I'm worried about and her army of dead stares.

Jan 11, 2019 - 10:30:48 AM
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1222 posts since 11/15/2010

Just remind her of all the vices and other evil things that you could be spending your money on. For me, that works about 10% of the time. 

Jan 11, 2019 - 10:33:21 AM
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3268 posts since 4/27/2004

The first "Earl Scruggs" models were not gold-plated, nor did they look like a Granada. I think they came out in either 1985 or 1986. They were made from StewMac parts and were made to resemble Earl's banjo as it looked at that time. IMHO, this banjo was not produced by Gibson. The rim and resonator look nothing like an authentic Gibson. As far as I've ever heard, no "Earl Scruggs" models were offered in gold-plating until much later.....perhaps the mid 90s. Hopefully, the banjo is a good banjo and you didn't pay too much for it. As far as having some special "1 of 5" made by Gibson, I doubt it very seriously.

Jan 11, 2019 - 10:38:15 AM
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heavy5

USA

633 posts since 11/3/2016

Cellar window ?

Jan 11, 2019 - 10:38:53 AM

35 posts since 1/23/2017

I thought the same thing but reasoned that why would anyone fake a banjo like this. Much better to fake

a prewar. But who knows these days; people will do anything for a buck.

I guess if it sounds good and makes me happy, I'll take a chance.

Jan 11, 2019 - 10:46:17 AM

3268 posts since 4/27/2004

quote:
Originally posted by Oldfingers

I thought the same thing but reasoned that why would anyone fake a banjo like this. Much better to fake

a prewar. But who knows these days; people will do anything for a buck.

I guess if it sounds good and makes me happy, I'll take a chance.


The label and signature is legit, IMO. A number of years ago, these labels were floating around and could be bought. You see, Earl signed these labels before they were put in the banjos. They just handed him a big stack and he signed them.......hundreds of them! Possibly, the neck and truss rod cover came from a legit Earl Scruggs model. The pot is unlikely to be from Gibson at all. The resonator has a quilted maple veneer and the neck is tiger stripe maple........they don't match! Gibson rims were always stained dark brown or painted black......not natural colored like this one. I've never seen Gibson attach a plaque to any banjo with screws......at least, not in modern times. Gibson almost always stamped SN (FONs) into the wood.......either the wood rim or on the back of the peghead. Again, it might be a killer banjo! Just not an authentic Gibson. 

Jan 11, 2019 - 10:48:41 AM

1575 posts since 2/10/2003

It looks like one of the honey colored Scruggs that someone put Granada engraved gold hardware on. Gold hardware could have been added by Gibson, but I doubt it. I have never seen a Gibson Custom shop instrument with a plate like that. Also, if it is one of 5 as the plate suggests, then there would have been some evidence of one of the others popping up.

edited to add:  if it is truly a honey colored scruggs with added hardware, it should have a serial number on the back of the peg head 

Edited by - 250gibson on 01/11/2019 10:57:01

Jan 11, 2019 - 10:57:51 AM
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151 posts since 5/19/2018

I’m going with SouthernDrifter on this one. That pot and Resonator really does not look like a Gibson product. Just to be clear, I am not a post war Gibson expert, but I do own a few Post WWII Gibson’s and I see little resemblance. I have never seen a Gibson of any model with that type of Plate in the rim depicting the make and model.

That being said, if you paid under 2100, I still think you got a very reasonable deal. The parts look like nice parts. The neck looks really nice. If it sounds good, you won.

If we are all incorrect, and what you have is a real Gibson Post War Granada. Well...you really, really won.

I’m sure many others will chime in with much better more qualified answers. I for one would love to see that you got the bargain of 2019.

As for getting it in the house...I work with the school of the obvious. Bring it in the front door. If your wife asks about it, just say that you love her so much that you want to share one of your favorite things with her and you just bought her a banjo.

Jan 11, 2019 - 11:28:09 AM

35 posts since 1/23/2017

Haha... I just hope it's heavy enough that she CAN'T share it with me.

Jan 11, 2019 - 1:01:07 PM
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gwhamil

USA

42 posts since 11/8/2016

Regardless, its a beautiful banjo. I wish you luck getting it past the guard wife :).

Jan 11, 2019 - 3:30:17 PM
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11444 posts since 10/30/2008

Hope you like it!

Jan 11, 2019 - 7:53:13 PM

JohnTN

USA

103 posts since 8/8/2012

Trying to understand those letters on the identification plate.
CM = Curly Maple
GP = Gold Plated
TBF = ?

But I'm just guessing.

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