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Oct 8, 2018 - 1:44:17 PM
78 posts since 10/8/2018

Hello, four-stringers! My name is Will. I've been lurking around here for awhile and have finally joined up, it looks like fun!

Topic for today--- "Tiger Rag", exact authorship unknown, though I believe that Jelly Roll Morton once claimed to have written it. The 1918 recording by the Orginal Dixieland Jazz Band lists all five band members as authors.

The first thing to say about this tune is... have you ever heard Harry Reser's version on plectrum banjo? If not, please google "Reser Tiger Rag" right away, because you'll never hear anything finer!

But I heard another wonderful version this summer (2018) at the ALLFRETS convention in Buffalo NY, played by three great banjoists: Paul Erickson and Johnny Baier (tenor) and Lance Dieckow (plectrum).

I've seen Lance's names on a couple of old postings around here, and I'd be thrilled if he would chime in with some of the licks and techniques he uses in playing this tune.

Attached is my own humble attempt on plectrum banjo with my trio "Dr. jazz and the Jazzbugs" recorded live at our Sunday night gig in Buffalo NY.

Will

EDIT: I'm having trouble attaching an MP3 file...?

Edited by - guitarbanjoman on 10/08/2018 14:42:03

Oct 8, 2018 - 2:43:36 PM
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78 posts since 10/8/2018

OK try this....


Oct 8, 2018 - 2:50:13 PM
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Omeboy

USA

1570 posts since 6/27/2013

Nice go'en, Will. Tiger Rag can be a nice work out in the chord melody style. Here's a version I recorded around 26 years ago. It begs and borrows a little something from everybody I admire.


Edited by - Omeboy on 10/08/2018 15:01:10

Oct 8, 2018 - 3:37:38 PM

78 posts since 10/8/2018

Wow, that's some great banjo playing, Omeboy.

You should record it again with a more up-to-date backing track... have you ever tried Band In A Box?

Oct 8, 2018 - 3:55:52 PM

Omeboy

USA

1570 posts since 6/27/2013

Thanks, Will. Yeah, you're right, I should re-record it, especially now that I play a little closer to what Mr. LaRocca, Mr. Baquet and Mr. Morton had in mind. wink   I've never tried "Band In A Box." I like to add my own rhythm track and accompaniment as I choose. Sometimes I try to add a little bass too, but it's all me except the rhythm track. There are more MP3s of plectrum stuff on my media page if you'd like to check them out. Presently , the plectrum banjo doesn't have much of a presence on this corner of the website. Too bad. I hope that changes over time.

Oct 8, 2018 - 6:29:50 PM

78 posts since 10/8/2018

I would be happy to make up an MP3 backing track using Band In A Box.

This program offers a lot of accompaniment styles, but the one I like best for plectrum banjo is the so-called"Gypsy Jazz" style.

It's just the synthesized sound of one acoustic bass and one rhythm guitar.

I don't know whose bass sound was used for this, but I found out later found out that the guitar sound model was Gonzalo Bergara, one of the more prominent young Django-style players.

********

Hey, don't worry about plectrum players being thin on the ground right now, it only takes a few of us to create something wonderful...

I can tell by your 26 year old recording that you are the real deal, Omeboy... may I call you "Ome"? Or perhaps "Omie"? so don't disillusion me yet, because also I have high hopes that that plectrum ace Lance Dieckow may make an appearance, too...

Oct 8, 2018 - 6:52:08 PM

Omeboy

USA

1570 posts since 6/27/2013

A number of good contributing plectrum players have come and gone here. You can find their footsteps if you look for them. Most were members of the "plectrum player group" on the BHO and some of them left MP3s. For reasons I'll never understand, many tenor players are reluctant to try a plectrum. That's a loss for them. They have missed out on a pleasant surprise. Do check out my media page for more MP3s and some demos too. The demo MP3s have accompanying diagrams for fingerings found in the photo section of the Media page.  (I would have contributed more, but the plectrum interest just isn't there.)

@guitarbanjoman

Edited by - Omeboy on 10/08/2018 19:04:01

Oct 8, 2018 - 8:29:17 PM

70 posts since 3/19/2018

Outstanding Omeboy and guitarbanjobanjo


Regards

Jan

Oct 9, 2018 - 4:53:55 AM

78 posts since 10/8/2018

Thanks, Jan!

Ok, here's an idea, let's see if anybody around here is interested.

That wonderful Harry Reser solo on Tiger Rag was about a minute long ...

...what if I were to use 21st century to break it into smaller fragments of five or ten seconds... and then slow those fragments down to a "human" velocity...

...and then each of us plectrum players around here could choose a fragment to analyze/transcribe and come back and teach to the rest of the gang...?

Would that be fun?

Will

Oct 9, 2018 - 7:55:11 AM

Omeboy

USA

1570 posts since 6/27/2013

I guess you haven't discovered Perry Bechtel yet.

Oct 9, 2018 - 1:15:36 PM

78 posts since 10/8/2018

Yes, I've heard Perry, he's wonderful... but the stuff I've heard him play has been more 'arranged' than 'jazzy'...

Oct 10, 2018 - 9:01:59 AM

78 posts since 10/8/2018

Well, my idea for transcribing Harry Reser's "Tiger Rag" solo didn't generate much enthusiasm, so I guess I'll step back from that one...

...as Groucho Marx once said, "I have my principles, and if you don't like them... I have other principles."

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