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Jul 12, 2018 - 5:33:32 AM
739 posts since 3/23/2006

What do the numbers of the Aquila Nylgut sets mean? I see that the 5B is "medium tension" and the 6B is "light tension" and the Red ones are "normal tension". I can't find any information on Aquila's website.

Jul 12, 2018 - 6:06:26 AM
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Howard,

Attached is a table I put together of the Aquila Nylgut string gauges to help me determine which set was right for me. Maybe this will help answer your question.


Jul 12, 2018 - 6:41:51 AM

2 posts since 6/5/2016

Thank you kind sir! This is so helpful.

Jul 12, 2018 - 6:49:25 AM

1511 posts since 4/7/2010

Brad,

Your chart is very helpful, but you have the 1B & 2B mixed up with the 5B & 6B. 1 & 2 are the ones with the red 4th, while the 5 & 6 are all regular Nylgut. And a wound 4th is no longer available.

Could be you put together the chart and Aquila promptly updated/changed their product line.

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Jul 12, 2018 - 8:52:29 AM

Bart Veerman

Canada

4211 posts since 1/5/2005

Aquila doesn't seem to be interested in supplying that kind of information. The string gauges have changed several times over the years and they don't bother to print those numbers on the packages. "Subject to change without notice" appears to apply.

Makes it hard to figure how to slot nuts and bridges...

Jul 12, 2018 - 2:12:12 PM
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These seemingly constant changes are a good enough reason for me not to bother using them.

Jul 12, 2018 - 5:33:43 PM
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rudy

USA

12744 posts since 3/27/2004

quote:
Originally posted by Bart Veerman

Aquila doesn't seem to be interested in supplying that kind of information. The string gauges have changed several times over the years and they don't bother to print those numbers on the packages. "Subject to change without notice" appears to apply.

Makes it hard to figure how to slot nuts and bridges...


Bernunzio lists string gauges for Nylgut.  Here's an example:

https://bernunzio.com/product/aquila-all-nylgut-5-string-banjo/

Elderly used to list gauge sizes, but they always added the disclaimer that specified the size as an average taken at several points along the strings.  The size is somewhat variable within each string, and that's most likely why Aquila doesn't include that information.  If you dig far enough on Aquilacord's website you'll also find that Mimmo doesn't list "equivalents" for his string sizes because the strings are (according to him..) made in a way that means there is no way to compare them strictly by size.

Although Nylguts may be somewhat of a "moving target" the sound, performance, and tone are worth it to me to wrestle with the oddities of Aquila's marketing.

Edited by - rudy on 07/12/2018 17:37:13

Jul 13, 2018 - 7:40:29 AM

233 posts since 12/28/2014

They also have a habit of throwing discontinued strings into new string sets. I’ve gotten packages that were supposed to be unwound with wound and red 4ths with no red.
If your real lucky you might get some ivory’s in a classic pack.

edit: not saying that’s exactly bad sometimes I get very pleasant suprises but i definitely look in the package before I buy if I can or I will order a few extra if I’m shopping online.

Edited by - link-o-sausages on 07/13/2018 07:43:17

Jul 13, 2018 - 7:46:53 AM
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rudy

USA

12744 posts since 3/27/2004

quote:
Originally posted by link-o-sausages

They also have a habit of throwing discontinued strings into new string sets. I’ve gotten packages that were supposed to be unwound with wound and red 4ths with no red.
If your real lucky you might get some ivory’s in a classic pack.

edit: not saying that’s exactly bad sometimes I get very pleasant suprises but i definitely look in the package before I buy if I can or I will order a few extra if I’m shopping online.


The reds were pretty much a fiasco from the start.  I really liked the formulation when Mimmo moved the "red" to a brown, but that didn't seem like it stuck very well.

I thought the ivory set was superior to just about anything, but they seem to have migrated back to stark white.  At least the current Nylgut seems to be a pretty safe bet for the present.

Edited by - rudy on 07/13/2018 07:47:33

Jul 13, 2018 - 9:05:15 AM

4026 posts since 9/21/2007

quote:
Originally posted by rudy
quote:
Originally posted by Bart Veerman

Aquila doesn't seem to be interested in supplying that kind of information. The string gauges have changed several times over the years and they don't bother to print those numbers on the packages. "Subject to change without notice" appears to apply.

Makes it hard to figure how to slot nuts and bridges...


Bernunzio lists string gauges for Nylgut.  Here's an example:

https://bernunzio.com/product/aquila-all-nylgut-5-string-banjo/

Elderly used to list gauge sizes, but they always added the disclaimer that specified the size as an average taken at several points along the strings.  The size is somewhat variable within each string, and that's most likely why Aquila doesn't include that information.  If you dig far enough on Aquilacord's website you'll also find that Mimmo doesn't list "equivalents" for his string sizes because the strings are (according to him..) made in a way that means there is no way to compare them strictly by size.

Although Nylguts may be somewhat of a "moving target" the sound, performance, and tone are worth it to me to wrestle with the oddities of Aquila's marketing.


That is called a "false string" and they will not intonate correctly.  That was the biggest problem I had with their polyester strings. 

Jul 13, 2018 - 11:22:55 AM
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rudy

USA

12744 posts since 3/27/2004

quote:
Originally posted by Joel Hooks
quote:
Originally posted by rudy
quote:
Originally posted by Bart Veerman

Aquila doesn't seem to be interested in supplying that kind of information. The string gauges have changed several times over the years and they don't bother to print those numbers on the packages. "Subject to change without notice" appears to apply.

Makes it hard to figure how to slot nuts and bridges...


Bernunzio lists string gauges for Nylgut.  Here's an example:

https://bernunzio.com/product/aquila-all-nylgut-5-string-banjo/

Elderly used to list gauge sizes, but they always added the disclaimer that specified the size as an average taken at several points along the strings.  The size is somewhat variable within each string, and that's most likely why Aquila doesn't include that information.  If you dig far enough on Aquilacord's website you'll also find that Mimmo doesn't list "equivalents" for his string sizes because the strings are (according to him..) made in a way that means there is no way to compare them strictly by size.

Although Nylguts may be somewhat of a "moving target" the sound, performance, and tone are worth it to me to wrestle with the oddities of Aquila's marketing.


That is called a "false string" and they will not intonate correctly.  That was the biggest problem I had with their polyester strings. 


That is correct, although I've not noticed any tendency towards false intonation, and I have a sensitivity to (and aversion to) pitch discrepancy.

Since Elderly no longer uses that statement I'm curious to know if Aquila's process may have reduced that variable in their production.

Elderly's Web Archive from 2 years ago showing that information can be found HERE.  (DO NOT order from that page... it is ARCHIVAL INFORMATION ONLY!)

Edited by - rudy on 07/13/2018 11:31:19

Jul 13, 2018 - 3:55:32 PM

739 posts since 3/23/2006

Thanks all. I am now much better informed about Aquila.

Jul 14, 2018 - 6:58:22 AM

233 posts since 12/28/2014

Best Aquila’s I’ve used we’re the ukelele strings. They seem to put a lot more energy and attention to detail in there uke strings and they work well on banjos if you can stomach buying a extra pack, there’s also a much larger selection. rudy The lava strings are basically ivory’s with a grey finish.

Jul 14, 2018 - 9:26:15 AM
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rudy

USA

12744 posts since 3/27/2004

quote:
Originally posted by link-o-sausages

Best Aquila’s I’ve used we’re the ukelele strings. They seem to put a lot more energy and attention to detail in there uke strings and they work well on banjos if you can stomach buying a extra pack, there’s also a much larger selection. rudy The lava strings are basically ivory’s with a grey finish.


Except the Lavas aren't available in banjo gauges or lengths, so that's not an option.

I run Aquila reds on my tenor uke and really like them.  None of the problems with breakage as banjo users experiance.

I've been saying for a few years that I keep waiting for Worth to put out banjo strings.  Seems pretty darned easy, but I can't convince them. Their Uke strings get a lot of love.

Edited by - rudy on 07/14/2018 09:27:32

Jul 14, 2018 - 4:25:46 PM

233 posts since 12/28/2014

I have a few banjos with uke strings on them. Anything over 25” with a long peghead your out of luck but it’s doable.

Jul 14, 2018 - 4:38:30 PM
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rudy

USA

12744 posts since 3/27/2004

quote:
Originally posted by link-o-sausages

I have a few banjos with uke strings on them. Anything over 25” with a long peghead your out of luck but it’s doable.


I just strung a typical 25-1/2" scale banjo.  It takes 29" for the longest string (3rd) from tuner post to tailpiece PLUS at least another 10" to loop and tie at both ends.  Standard Aquilas are JUST long enough to comfortably tie, but I wouldn't want anything shorter.  I don't know how you use uke length.

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