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Jun 8, 2018 - 5:11:52 AM
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13540 posts since 12/2/2005

Professional cooking has changed a lot since I was doing it. When I started, Julia Child was the closest thing to a celebrity chef there was in the United States.

With the growing interest in food, it was only natural that celebrity chefs would emerge. They were, usually, not brilliant chefs - they were telegenic personalities.

Anthony Bourdain would have been the first to tell you that he wasn't Michelin caliber. He wasn't a culinary alchemist. Instead, he was solid, skilled, highly knowledgeable - but above all, he was a PRODUCTION chef. He was the kind of chef who could oversee the delivery of 400 very good meals every single night, with perfect consistency.

More importantly, he was honest and real. He understood the types of misfits and weirdos that are drawn to the trade - after all, he was one himself. He was as unflinching in his description of what it really takes to make it happen as he was in his commitment to doing it, and he was balls out honest about the whole thing.

I've had friends over the years who, knowing my history with professional cooking, asked me what I thought about the fact that their kid wanted to be a chef. I always told them: "Read Anthony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential. That tells you what the restaurant world is like more candidly than anything else out there. It's a brutal life. You read it first. If you think your kid can handle it, make your kid read the book. And if your kid thinks that all sounds swell, there's not a damned thing you'd be able to do to stop him anyway."

RIP, Chef. Hope you've found some peace.

Edited by - eagleisland on 06/08/2018 05:12:41

Jun 8, 2018 - 5:16:18 AM
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6460 posts since 7/24/2013

I have volunteered as a crisis councilor my entire adult life. Depression is a terrible thing. Anthony had a beautiful and simple approach to his job. He was a champion for those that need champions the most.

Jun 8, 2018 - 5:36:39 AM

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What a shame. 2 High profile suicides in a week. Fame and fortune is no guarantee of happiness (although, who knows, sometimes people get sick and choose to go out on their own terms, like Robin Williams).

I don’t know much about Kate Spade, but Anthony’s philosophy when it comes to travel was very influential on mine. Wherever you go, try to immerse yourself in the culture. Eat the local fare, drink the local drinks. That is how you experience the world.

And his show, Three Sheets, was just brilliant. I’m pretty bummed that he is gone, and that he must have been tormented with pain of some kind or another.

Jun 8, 2018 - 6:08:47 AM

chuckv97

Canada

34925 posts since 10/5/2013
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Sad,, I enjoyed his Parts Unknown program. Unfortunately another recovering addict who didnt give up alcohol. RIP Anthony.
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Jun 8, 2018 - 6:33:26 AM

KE

Malta

22686 posts since 6/30/2006

I don't know much, other than reputation, about Anthony Bourdain or Kate Spade. I'm sorry they couldn't find peace in their personal lives and am sad for their passing. Both had much to contribute to the lives of others, and for that we can be grateful.

Perhaps speaking openly about the challenges of those facing depression will help others understand.

Jun 8, 2018 - 6:38:27 AM

raybob

USA

13186 posts since 12/11/2003

Listening to NPR’s story on this now. He apparently started as a dishwasher. We really enjoyed his show. Everyone’s loss here. Condolences to his family.

Jun 8, 2018 - 7:40:10 AM

8069 posts since 1/15/2005

I didn't know about Anthony until I read this. I really enjoyed his stories/adventures on TV. He was the sort of person that seemed at home wherever he was and just an incredible man.

Jun 8, 2018 - 7:53:18 AM

763 posts since 3/27/2008

Yes... It's very sad.

In spite of his outward and professional success, he must have suffered from depression that he couldn't manage or overcome.

Another reminder that happiness (and inner peace) truly are the most important thing (beyond outward appearances, materials success, etc).

Jun 8, 2018 - 9:02:38 AM

1057 posts since 1/16/2010

I was also taken back when I heard this on the radio this morning. I really used to enjoy watching his older program “No Reservations”. He travelled the world, learning much more about just food and drink, but of culture, and with him, we as viewers were able to experience and learn as well. Always thought he was a down to earth, real person, and that he was genuine with worldy people and also his followers at home watching. I’ll miss his presence.

Jun 8, 2018 - 9:15:39 AM

Tobus

USA

1464 posts since 11/17/2015

I never watched his show, though I heard a lot about him both good and bad. He seemed to be very condescending towards other celebrity chefs and foodies who didn't meet his personal standards (I believe he was pretty brutal in his attacks on Guy Fieri). I don't know if this was part of the demons inside him, where he felt he had to tear others down like that, but I do feel sorry for the man. Whatever was tormenting him finally won.

Jun 8, 2018 - 9:33:27 AM

OM45GE Players Union Member

USA

78403 posts since 11/7/2007

Very sad. I enjoyed watching him. He seemed to have a zest for life.

Anthony did start out as a dishwasher. He was staying with some friends in Provincetown on Cape Cod, here in Massachusetts. They had a restaurant and told him they needed a dishwasher and, inasmuch as he wasn’t paying rent, he was their guy. He fell in love with the life.

Jun 8, 2018 - 12:37:51 PM

pickin_fool

Canada

1920 posts since 6/30/2017

this was my first hearing about anthony bourdain too..sad..any time anyone, no matter who, chooses to end things..

he was an excellent story teller and had a good sense of humor..he would have been a riot to work with..

i enjoyed his tv shows, and kitchen confidential was a good read...

a lot of people seem to think that a cooking job is a walk in the park...t'aint so...insane hours...long periods of time spent on your feet..oh well

R.I.P. tony..i hope you are finally at peace

Jun 8, 2018 - 3:29:54 PM
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mbuk06 Players Union Member

England

6712 posts since 10/5/2006

I have no knowledge of this particular individual or what he was known for. Any suicide is a tragedy that contains the possibility that in different circumstances it could have been averted and the illness-related motivation to self harm treated. Maybe one small positive to come out of the recent tragedies relating to high-profile 'celebrities' is that they highlight the fact that mental illness - which depression is - can affect anyone in the same way as other forms of serious illness.

There is still a pervasive sense that many are surprised that individuals whose material circumstances and outward appearance of 'success' they assume would make them 'happy' then take their own lives. Whereas had the death been due to cancer or heart disease that element of surprise wouldn't exist.

Edited by - mbuk06 on 06/08/2018 15:34:52

Jun 8, 2018 - 5:39:20 PM

KE

Malta

22686 posts since 6/30/2006

Not a bad thought

Edited by - KE on 06/08/2018 17:40:50

Jun 8, 2018 - 5:59:43 PM
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dmiller

USA

23005 posts since 7/22/2007

Anthony Bourdain net worth $16 million

Robin Williams net worth $130 million

Kate Spade net worth $200 million

Life ain’t about money....

Jun 8, 2018 - 8:02:06 PM

6460 posts since 7/24/2013

The beauty of Anthony is that he understood his short comings, he greatly regretting the success of his book that in a way romanticized restaurant culture, as it was greatly abusive toward women. He strove to evolve. Here's a great story about him standing up for a older woman who dared give Olive Garden a good review.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliareinstein/marilyn-hagerty-anthony-bourdain-olive-garden?utm_term=.apLzZNpYQo#.db9lw5bEoj

Jun 8, 2018 - 8:17:44 PM
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Mullie

USA

4463 posts since 10/6/2009

quote:
Originally posted by dmiller

Anthony Bourdain net worth $16 million

Robin Williams net worth $130 million

Kate Spade net worth $200 million

Life ain’t about money....


There are over 120 suicides each day in the US and most do not have the net worth any where near those named above. People from all walks of life and all net worth levels. The correlation of wealth and mental health illness is not a thing. Money has nothing to do with it. 

Jun 9, 2018 - 1:31:22 PM

7947 posts since 2/22/2007

This one really disturbs me. I've been a fan since Kitchen Confidential but he went way beyond that, and way beyond just being entertaining. I enjoyed No Reservations, but I tell you, Parts Unknown is simply the best thing that I've seen on television and one of the most important programs that I know of. His genius was in making connections with people from cultures all over the world and in letting us share in those connections. I don't think that it is possible to watch the Viet Nam or Iran episodes and ever see those people in the same light again. By that I mean, never see them as so different from myself. It is one thing to think that but quite another to feel that. Anthony made me feel that.
I had the urge to write him a letter of appreciation after his West Virginia episode, as I watched this very hip, very New Yorker show some actual respect and appreciation and a compassion that is not pity for the people of Appalachia. That is rare beyond words.

It is sadly ironic when one who seems to be so good at the art of living ends their life, but we can never know his inner life, or what he was dealing with, so I'll respect his decision. He gave more than most. I liked him and admired him and will greatly miss him.

Edited by - banjo bill-e on 06/09/2018 13:32:55

Jun 9, 2018 - 1:55:15 PM

1799 posts since 7/28/2015

The man was a mensch and he will be missed.

Jun 10, 2018 - 9:05:17 AM

KE

Malta

22686 posts since 6/30/2006

I had not watched any of the Bourdain shows until the marathon that started last night. I try to avoid TV.

Brilliant. Sad that it takes a man's tragic death for me to pay attention. Maybe that's a silver lining in the very dark cloud.

Edited by - KE on 06/10/2018 09:14:54

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